{"id":1516,"date":"2004-12-04T06:37:31","date_gmt":"2004-12-04T13:37:31","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2004-12-04T06:37:31","modified_gmt":"2004-12-04T13:37:31","slug":"i-never-thought-id-have-to-write-this","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2004\/12\/04\/i-never-thought-id-have-to-write-this\/","title":{"rendered":"I Never Thought I&#8217;d Have to Write This"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m wary of people who pick the worst among their opponents to &#8220;prove&#8221; the superiority of their own position. I won&#8217;t say Viktor Yushchenko is an anti-Semite just because <a href=http:\/\/www.ukar.org\/>this nut<\/a> believes in a <a href=http:\/\/www.ukar.org\/tax.html>kosher conspiracy (literally)<\/a>. I won&#8217;t say <i>National Review<\/i> is full of Nazis just because <a href=http:\/\/64.233.161.104\/search?q=cache:xbYu3tr876sJ:www.viceland.com\/issues_au\/v2n6\/htdocs\/a_fascist.php+%22We+can+be+as+just+and+as+civil+as+we+want,+but+they+are+coming+to+get+us%22&#038;hl=en>this Nazi echoes their sentiments perfectly<\/a>. And I won&#8217;t say all neoconservatives\/pro-war &#8220;libertarians&#8221; should be drummed out of the league of halfway decent humans just because one of them should. <\/p>\n<p>But the aforementioned one is not exactly on the fringe of pro-war thought. In fact, he&#8217;s a <a href=http:\/\/www.theihs.org\/people.php\/92163.html?menuid=6>program director<\/a> at the Institute for Humane Studies, a <a href=http:\/\/www.theihs.org\/category.php\/27.html?menuid=1>major mainstream libertarian organization<\/a>. His standard approach to foreign-policy matters goes as follows:<\/p>\n<p>(1) make assertions so outrageously stupid and\/or vicious that they far surpass the worst caricatures of right-wingers; <\/p>\n<p>(2) whine that those who either recoil in horror or laugh their asses off aren&#8217;t addressing his arguments.<\/p>\n<p>His latest libertarian argument?<\/p>\n<ul><a href=http:\/\/jujitsui-generis.typepad.com\/jujitsui_generis\/2004\/12\/the_empire_stri.html>If boiling people alive best served the interests of the American people, then it would neither be moral or immoral.<\/a><\/ul>\n<p>We&#8217;re not talking about choosing between rum raisin and rocky road at the Baskin-Robbins. Boiling people alive (if only under exceptional circumstances) is either moral, or it isn&#8217;t \u2013 and anyone half as clever as this lad thinks he is would make those exceptional circumstances clear, then argue for the morality of throwing people in the cauldron.<\/p>\n<p>But even if he were clever enough to do so, he still wouldn&#8217;t be a libertarian. Some issues are beyond debate for libertarians, and even if you don&#8217;t count preemptive war among those issues, you damn well better include the impermissibility of boiling people alive. Vegans don&#8217;t debate skinning baby seals. Libertarians don&#8217;t debate boiling people alive. Period. And if we do, then perhaps we should also reconsider Sweden&#8217;s take on taxes, <a href=http:\/\/www.sodomylaws.org\/world\/uganda\/uganda.htm>Uganda&#8217;s thinking on homosexuality<\/a>, and <a href=http:\/\/64.233.161.104\/search?q=cache:5RgnHserD00J:en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/William_J._Bennett+%22william+bennett%22+behead&#038;hl=en>Bill Bennett&#8217;s favored drug policy<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><a href=http:\/\/www.theihs.org\/subcategory.php\/109.html?menuid=1>Feel free to express your disgust to Max Borders&#8217; employers<\/a>.   <\/p>\n<p><a href=http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/index.php?id=P1513>UPDATE (12\/4)<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><a href=http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/comments.php?id=P1514_0_1_0>UPDATE (12\/5)<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><a href=http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/comments.php?id=P1515_0_1_0>UPDATE (12\/6)<\/a>      <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m wary of people who pick the worst among their opponents to &#8220;prove&#8221; the superiority of their own position. I won&#8217;t say Viktor Yushchenko is an anti-Semite just because this nut believes in a kosher conspiracy (literally). I won&#8217;t say National Review is full of Nazis just because this Nazi echoes their sentiments perfectly. 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