{"id":15367,"date":"2012-06-06T13:24:15","date_gmt":"2012-06-06T21:24:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=15367"},"modified":"2012-06-06T13:29:37","modified_gmt":"2012-06-06T21:29:37","slug":"former-cia-official-drone-war-kills-innocents-creates-terrorist-safe-havens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/06\/06\/former-cia-official-drone-war-kills-innocents-creates-terrorist-safe-havens\/","title":{"rendered":"Former CIA Official: Drone War Kills Innocents, Creates Terrorist Safe Havens"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Making the rounds today is a piece up <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2012\/jun\/05\/al-qaida-drone-attacks-too-broad?CMP=twt_gu\">at the Guardian<\/a> in which a former top CIA terrorism official admits the obvious: that the drone war if overly broad, kills too many civilians, provokes anti-American hatred, and could inadvertently create terrorist safe havens.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now Robert Grenier, who headed the CIA&#8217;s counter-terrorism center from 2004 to 2006 and was previously a CIA station chief in Pakistan, has told the Guardian that the drone programme is targeted too broadly. &#8220;It [the drone program] needs to be targeted much more finely. We have been seduced by them and the unintended consequences of our actions are going to outweigh the intended consequences,&#8221; Grenier said in an interview.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have gone a long way down the road of creating a situation where we are creating more enemies than we are removing from the battlefield. We are already there with regards to Pakistan and Afghanistan,&#8221; he said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>Grenier said the strikes were too indiscriminate and causing outrage among the civilian population in the country, lending support to Islamists and seeing a growth in anti-US sentiment.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That brings you to a place where young men, who are typically armed, are in the same area and may hold these militants in a certain form of high regard. If you strike them indiscriminately you are running the risk of creating a terrific amount of popular anger. They have tribes and clans and large families. Now all of a sudden you have a big problem \u2026 I am very concerned about the creation of a larger terrorist safe haven in Yemen,&#8221; Grenier said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I guess this is a follow-up to what I called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/05\/14\/drones-in-yemen-may-cause-blowback-a-belated-revelation\/\">a &#8220;belated revelation&#8221;<\/a> last month when James Traub at ForeignPolicy.com wrote &#8220;The danger of producing more militants than we kill in Yemen hardly seems hypothetical.&#8221; Way to get on the bandwagon, was my general message. Experts in the area have been singing this tune for a very long time. Grenier was based in Pakistan, but now that the news is very much focused on the expanded campaign in Yemen, I&#8217;ll reprint a compiled list of expert opinion on this blowback question:<\/p>\n<p>Gregory Johnsen, a Yemen expert at Princeton University (who Traub actually quotes),\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/national-security\/white-house-approves-broader-yemen-drone-campaign\/2012\/04\/25\/gIQA82U6hT_story_1.html\">recently wrote<\/a>, \u201cBody bags are not a good barometer for success in a war like this. I would argue that U.S. missile strike[s] are actually one of the major \u2014 not the only, but a major \u2014 factor in AQAP\u2019s growing strength.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jeremy Scahill,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenation.com\/article\/166265\/washingtons-war-yemen-backfires\">reporting for\u00a0<em>Nation<\/em><\/a>, exposed in February after visiting Yemen how U.S. airstrikes that kill civilians and those ill-defined as militants \u2013 along with support for the brutal Yemeni government \u00a0&#8211; foments anti-Americanism and fuels international terrorism.<\/p>\n<p>As Charles Schmitz, a Yemen expert at\u00a0Towson\u00a0University in Maryland,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/nationworld\/world\/la-fg-us-yemen-20120402,0,3212469.story?track=rss&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+latimes\/mostviewed+(L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories)\">told the\u00a0<em>Los<\/em>\u00a0<em>Angeles<\/em>\u00a0<em>Times<\/em><\/a>, \u201cThe more the U.S. applies its current policy, the stronger Al Qaeda seems to get.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cU.S. involvement is far more than ever in Yemen. We have no evidence that all those being killed are terrorists,\u201d Abdul Salam Mohammed, director of Abaad Strategic Center,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/headline\/2012\/04\/17-6\">told CNN<\/a>. \u201cWith every U.S. attack that is conducted in Yemen al Qaeda is only growing in power and we have to ask ourselves why that is happening.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDrones are a weapon of terror in many ways, and the kind of hostility this is going to breed may not be worth the counter-terrorism gains,\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=drones%20are%20a%20weapon%20of%20terror%20in%20many%20ways%2C%20and%20the%20kind%20of%20hostility%20this%20is%20going%20to%20breed%20may%20not%20be%20worth%20the%20counter-terrorism%20gains%2C%E2%80%9D%20says%20barbara%20bodine%2C%20who%20was%20u.s.%20ambassador%20to%20yemen%20from%201997%20to%202001.&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=0CGEQFjAD&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.latimes.com%2F2012%2Fapr%2F02%2Fworld%2Fla-fg-us-yemen-20120402%2F2&amp;ei=eh6xT7SkKMOg6QHqvJ2gCQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNHbCWWYhGypNJ2EL-LTBR8Fw9hsKQ&amp;sig2=147S8kR92sLZ8gAHNhq7qA\">says\u00a0Barbara Bodine<\/a>, who was U.S. ambassador to Yemen from 1997 to 2001.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s notable that Grenier was a top CIA &#8220;counter-terrorism&#8221; official under the Bush administration. Most Bush officials have come out as stalwart\u00a0defenders of Obama&#8217;s foreign policy, but this one notably <em>is concerned he has gone too far<\/em>. We&#8217;re at a point now where <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/05\/29\/theres-no-such-thing-as-civilians-in-the-drone-war\/\">Obama is counting<\/a>\u00a0&#8220;all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants,&#8221; as administration officials <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2012\/05\/29\/world\/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=3\">told the New York Times<\/a>, &#8220;unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.&#8221; If anyone thinks we won&#8217;t be garnering any new enemies with that kind of policy, maybe its time they applied for a gig at the CIA.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Making the rounds today is a piece up at the Guardian in which a former top CIA terrorism official admits the obvious: that the drone war if overly broad, kills too many civilians, provokes anti-American hatred, and could inadvertently create terrorist safe havens. 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