{"id":23149,"date":"2014-03-26T09:33:22","date_gmt":"2014-03-26T17:33:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=23149"},"modified":"2014-03-26T09:33:22","modified_gmt":"2014-03-26T17:33:22","slug":"anthony-gregory-on-libertarians-and-the-ukraine-crisis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2014\/03\/26\/anthony-gregory-on-libertarians-and-the-ukraine-crisis\/","title":{"rendered":"Anthony Gregory on Libertarians and the Ukraine Crisis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Despite <a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/2014\/03\/26\/where-libertarians-should-really-stand-on-crimea\/\">Justin&#8217;s attempts<\/a> to place me in the the same camp as the neocons, Anthony Gregory of the Independent Institute has written a balanced and principled piece on this controversy. Here&#8217;s an excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So what should we think? We should probably take a middle ground between B and C. Putin isn\u2019t just an aggressor; he\u2019s one of the worst on the planet. He killed tens of thousands of Chechens. He oversees one of the most vast prison populations on earth. He is essentially a late-communist holdover of the party variety in everything but name, and his violations of civil liberties, free speech, and the dignity of homosexuals and others are not minor matters for any libertarian who cares about the rights of all people on earth. His invasion of Ukraine was unjustified. His annexation of Crimea cannot be defended and although some critics have exaggerated the evils of this territorial power grabs by comparing them to Stalin\u2019s or Hitler\u2019s expansionism, it is true that Putin\u2019s defenders\u2019 arguments based on ethnic nationalism could indeed be used to justify the most infamous European land grabs that occurred that same decade.<\/p>\n<p>As for the United States, its foreign policy is a lot worse than Putin\u2019s biggest detractors wish to acknowledge. While Putin has killed more people than Obama, he does not appear to have killed more people as Bush\u2014and yes, it is a moral failure and deviation from libertarianism to downplay the Iraq war as anything less than one of the very worst international atrocities of our new century, and one that dramatically taints the moral character of U.S. diplomacy. What the last few U.S. administrations have done will haunt much of the world for decades. And the aggression has hardly ceased. Obama\u2019s drone killings are one of the most infamous human rights violations on the planet, the drug war imposed on Mexico has taken tens of thousands of lives, and America\u2019s own civil liberties record is far worse than some on Team America wish to confront. There are tens of millions of people much worse off throughout the world because of recent U.S. diplomacy and wars, and only a cold utilitarian would even attempt to justify this record.<\/p>\n<p>I understand why some libertarians are inclined to emphasize one point or the other. Those Americans focusing on U.S. criminality are right that we have more influence, albeit marginally so, on the government that lords over us, that if we don\u2019t stand up to the U.S. war machine and its covert ops, no one will, and that criticism of foreign aggression often fuels war propaganda at home. But others are frustrated that just because the U.S. government condemns Russian aggression, they\u2019re supposed to keep quiet. \u201cMy country is the world,\u201d as Tom Paine said, and libertarians around the world should condemn aggression anywhere it happens. Pretending the U.S. government is the world\u2019s only major problem is na\u00efve at best. The first group is often right that liberal states are more belligerent in foreign affairs, and the second group is often right that it\u2019s easy for people here to forget about victims of foreign oppression. Such dynamics played themselves out in the Cold War, too, and both sides had a point. It would have been demoralizing to be berated for attacking either U.S. or Soviet aggression in those times.<\/p>\n<p>It is hard to maintain the right level of nuance and principle. I think\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/2014\/03\/26\/where-a-libertarian-should-stand-on-crimea\/\">John Glaser<\/a>\u00a0and the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/reason.com\/blog\/2014\/03\/06\/4-concepts-about-the-ukraine-crisis-that\">Jesse Walker blog entry<\/a>\u00a0he links to are good models of principled libertarian commentary.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Read it in full <a href=\"http:\/\/libertarianstandard.com\/2014\/03\/26\/against-the-libertarian-cold-war\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Despite Justin&#8217;s attempts to place me in the the same camp as the neocons, Anthony Gregory of the Independent Institute has written a balanced and principled piece on this controversy. Here&#8217;s an excerpt: So what should we think? We should probably take a middle ground between B and C. Putin isn\u2019t just an aggressor; he\u2019s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":86,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-23149","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23149","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/86"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=23149"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23149\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23150,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23149\/revisions\/23150"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=23149"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=23149"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=23149"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=23149"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}