{"id":26780,"date":"2016-03-23T20:07:39","date_gmt":"2016-03-24T04:07:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=26780"},"modified":"2016-03-23T20:07:39","modified_gmt":"2016-03-24T04:07:39","slug":"us-intel-vets-warn-against-torture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/23\/us-intel-vets-warn-against-torture\/","title":{"rendered":"US Intel Vets Warn Against Torture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To those living \u201coutside the Beltway\u201d it may seem counterintuitive that those of us whose analysis has been correct on key issues that the U.S. government got criminally wrong \u2013 like the invasion of Iraq in 2003 \u2013 would be blacklisted from \u201cmainstream\u201d media and ostracized by the Smart People of the Establishment. But, alas, that\u2019s the way it is.<\/p>\n<p>Forget the continuing carnage in which hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions made refugees. Within the mainstream U.S. media and around Washington\u2019s major policy circles, there is little serious dialogue, much less debate about what went so hideously wrong; and Americans still innocently wonder \u2013 regarding the people on the receiving end of the blunderbuss violence \u2013 \u201cwhy they hate us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After more than 13 years of presenting thoughtful critiques to senior officials \u2013 and having little discernible impact \u2013 we Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity are strongly tempted to take some solace in having made a good-faith effort to spread some truth around \u2013 and, now, go play golf. But the stakes are too high. We can\u2019t in good conscience approach the first tee without having tried one more time.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Accordingly, we repeat <a href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2016\/02\/26\/vips-offers-advice-to-candidates\/\"><u>the offer<\/u><\/a> we extended on Feb. 26 \u2013 this time to the winnowed candidate roster of Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump \u2013 to make our deep experience and proven expertise available to those of you interested in the tell-it-like-it-is analysis that has been our niche for so many years.<\/p>\n<p>Given <a href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/vips-memos\/\"><u>our 13-year record<\/u><\/a> for accuracy and insight, we had hoped that at least one or two of you would take us up on the offer, especially since a few of you have faced criticism for a paucity of foreign policy and national security experts.<\/p>\n<p>Of more immediate importance to the nation and the world, statements by some of you in reaction to the Monday bombings in Brussels, seem to betray:<\/p>\n<p>A) Gross naivet\u00e9 about how to counter terrorism;<\/p>\n<p>B) Demagogic disregard for the civil liberty protections embodied in the U.S. Constitution; or<\/p>\n<p>C) Both of the above.<\/p>\n<p>We can help round out your understanding of terrorism, its causes and its possible cures \u2013 but with respect to \u201cA\u201d above, you may wish to begin by reading <a href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2007\/061807a.html\"><u>VIPS memorandum #15<\/u><\/a> (of June 18, 2007), <em>How <strong>Not<\/strong> to Counter Terrorism<\/em>, drafted by our VIPS colleague, former Special Agent Coleen Rowley, who was FBI Division Counsel, Minneapolis, during 9\/11. (Rowley later blew the whistle about the ineptitude at FBI headquarters that thwarted the simple steps that would have prevented those terrorist attacks.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>On Torture, Pols &amp; Polls<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Based on our lengthy experience in intelligence, we know that torture doesn\u2019t \u201cwork.\u201d So we confess to a certain disgust with the \u201cnew normal,\u201d fostered not only by some presidential candidates but also by the media, that torture techniques like waterboarding yield useful intelligence. <strong>They don\u2019t<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>This issue has come to the fore again in the immediate aftermath of the Brussels bombings. We continue to be concerned that presidential candidates may be unaware, not only that harsh interrogation techniques don\u2019t \u201cwork,\u201d but also that they are a great fillip to the recruitment of more terrorists.<\/p>\n<p>There are, of course, polls purporting to show that a majority of Americans still think that torturing \u201cbad guys\u201d can be justified. That simply means that many citizens have been seduced by artificially stoked fear into believing what <strong>all<\/strong> independent investigations \u2013 including the detailed Senate study relying on original CIA documents \u2013 have proven: that despite all the TV and Hollywood propaganda \u201cshowing\u201d that torture \u201cworks,\u201d it doesn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>The sole exception is if your purpose is to obtain unreliable or false \u201cintelligence.\u201d For instance, if you wish to coerce an Al Qaeda operative into \u201cconfessing\u201d that there were close ties between Iraq\u2019s Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, well, then torture can work like a charm. A detainee will happily confirm a lie to stop the pain.<\/p>\n<p>As for those responsible for implementing torture \u2013 like former CIA directors George Tenet, Porter Goss and Michael Hayden \u2013 is it not clear that they have strong incentive to \u201cjustify\u201d their criminal behavior? Some other complicit CIA officials and operatives, eager to protect themselves from the calumny that comes from torturing, also continue to pretend that torture helps \u201ckeep us safe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The opposite is the case, but these torture practitioners and their accomplices continue to promote the lie that useful intelligence can be gotten via abusive interrogation techniques (never mind that most such \u201cenhanced\u201d techniques are clearly illegal, not to mention immoral and ineffective).<\/p>\n<p>VIPS has spoken out strongly \u2013 most recently in a Sept. 14, 2015 <a href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2015\/09\/14\/us-intel-vets-decry-cias-use-of-torture\/\"><u>memo<\/u><\/a> \u2013 against these crass attempts by former intelligence officials to exculpate themselves and other perpetrators.<\/p>\n<p>What the commanding general of U.S. Army intelligence has said about torture bears repeating: On Sept. 6, 2006, the very day President George W. Bush announced and applauded the effectiveness of \u201cenhanced interrogation techniques,\u201d Gen. John Kimmons told a Pentagon press conference: \u201cI am absolutely convinced [that] no good intelligence is going to come from abusive practices. I think history tells us that. I think the empirical evidence of the last five years, hard years, tell us that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Wise Advisers Needed<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Some of today\u2019s presidential candidates are brimming with what we\u2019re told are sage foreign policy advisers, even though many have been implicated in the disastrous policies of recent decades; other candidates have relatively few advisers \u2013 some of them unknown entities about whom little can be found even via Goggle. As a collective, VIPS stands ready to help any and all candidates who might be interested. It may now be time to insert some names into our offer.<\/p>\n<p>The listing below contains only those members of VIPS who signed onto our <a href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2015\/09\/14\/us-intel-vets-decry-cias-use-of-torture\/\"><u>Memorandum<\/u><\/a> of Sept. 14, 2015, addressing our former bosses\u2019 transparent attempts to cover up their role in torture:<\/p>\n<p><b>VIPS Steering Group, Sept. 14, 2015<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Fulton Armstrong, National Intelligence Officer for Latin America (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical &amp; Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Tony Camerino, former Air Force and Air Force Reserves, senior interrogator in Iraq and author of <em>How to Break a Terrorist <\/em>under pseudonym Matthew Alexander<\/li>\n<li>Glenn L. Carle, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Transnational Threats, CIA (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Thomas Drake, former Senior Executive, NSA<\/li>\n<li>Daniel Ellsberg, former State Department and Defense Department Official (VIPS Associate)<\/li>\n<li>Philip Giraldi, CIA, Operations Officer (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq &amp; Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS)<\/li>\n<li>Larry C Johnson, CIA &amp; State Department (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Michael S. Kearns, Captain, USAF Intelligence Agency (Retired), ex Master SERE Instructor<\/li>\n<li>John Kiriakou, Former CIA Counterterrorism Officer<\/li>\n<li>Karen Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col., US Air Force (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Edward Loomis, NSA, Cryptologic Computer Scientist (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>James Marcinkowski, Attorney, former CIA Operations Officer<\/li>\n<li>Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry\/intelligence officer &amp; CIA analyst (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Todd Pierce, MAJ, US Army Judge Advocate (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Scott Ritter, former Maj., USMC, former UN Weapon Inspector, Iraq<\/li>\n<li>Diane Roark, former professional staff, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence<\/li>\n<li>Coleen Rowley, Division Counsel &amp; Special Agent, FBI (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Ali Soufan, former FBI Special Agent<\/li>\n<li>Robert David Steele, former CIA Operations Officer<\/li>\n<li>Greg Thielmann, U.S. Foreign Service Officer (ret.) and former Senate Intelligence Committee<\/li>\n<li>Peter Van Buren, U.S. Department of State, Foreign Service Officer (ret.) (associate VIPS)<\/li>\n<li>Lawrence Wilkerson, Colonel (USA, ret.), Distinguished Visiting Professor, College of William and Mary<\/li>\n<li>Valerie Plame Wilson, CIA Operations Officer (ret.)<\/li>\n<li>Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret) and former U.S. Diplomat<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><i>Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He is a 30-year veteran of the CIA and Army intelligence and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). McGovern served for considerable periods in all four of CIA\u2019s main directorates.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Reprinted with permission from <a href=\"http:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/\">Consortium News<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To those living \u201coutside the Beltway\u201d it may seem counterintuitive that those of us whose analysis has been correct on key issues that the U.S. government got criminally wrong \u2013 like the invasion of Iraq in 2003 \u2013 would be blacklisted from \u201cmainstream\u201d media and ostracized by the Smart People of the Establishment. 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