{"id":34471,"date":"2020-01-05T08:54:50","date_gmt":"2020-01-05T16:54:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=34471"},"modified":"2020-01-06T10:07:00","modified_gmt":"2020-01-06T18:07:00","slug":"did-iran-kill-600-americans-in-iraq-war-ii-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2020\/01\/05\/did-iran-kill-600-americans-in-iraq-war-ii-no\/","title":{"rendered":"Did Iran Kill 600 Americans in Iraq War II? No."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Due to the current <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=Iran+killed+600+Americans+in+Iraq&amp;client=firefox-b-1-d&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=nws&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwitgZ_m8ezmAhVXa80KHdhuDf8Q_AUoAXoECA0QAw&amp;biw=1157&amp;bih=730\">ubiquity<\/a> of claims that Iran killed 600 Americans in Iraq War II, I figured it might be worth bringing up the fact that that is a complete and damnable lie.<\/p>\n<p>In the case of Petraeus&#8217;s surge against Sadrist forces in Sadr City and Najaf in 2007 and 2008, Sadr was the least Iranian-loyal of all the major Shi&#8217;ite factions. The U.S.&#8217;s favorites from Dawa and SCIRI were also Iran&#8217;s favorites. Sadr wanted the U.S. and Iran both out. (At a couple of points the U.S. chased Sadr into Iran, but that was a self-fulfilling blunder, not proof they were right about him.)<\/p>\n<p>When Petraeus attacked them they responded, not the other way around. (Danny Sjursen was in East Baghdad at that time and <a href=\"https:\/\/scotthorton.org\/interviews\/11-22-19-danny-sjursen-on-the-failures-of-americas-war-in-iraq\/\">confirmed this<\/a> to me in an interview just a few weeks ago.)<\/p>\n<p>And when they did respond with copper-core EFP bombs, they were made <a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/12\/efps-are-made-in-iraq-by-iraqis\/\"><em>in Iraq by Iraqis<\/em><\/a>. Despite all of Michael Gordon&#8217;s claims in the <em>New York Times<\/em> back then, and all the claims since, no one has ever demonstrated that these bombs came from Iran at all, much less directly from the Qods force.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a couple of blogs full of links from back then:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2006\/03\/16\/america-switches-sides-in-iraq-war\/\">America Switches Sides in Iraq War<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2007\/02\/11\/iran-suppying-ied\u2019s-to-sunni-insurgency\/\">Is Iran Supplying IEDs to the Sunni Insurgency?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2007\/04\/10\/washington-post-liars-caught\/\"><em>Washington Post<\/em> Liars Caught!<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/12\/efps-are-made-in-iraq-by-iraqis\/\">EFPs Are Made in Iraq By Iraqis<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here are a few more articles:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/archives\/la-xpm-2007-feb-16-oe-cockburn16-story.html\">Andrew Cockburn in the <em>L.A. Times<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/2007\/02\/where_are_iraqs\/\">Wired<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/04\/07\/world\/middleeast\/07iraq.html\">Surprising honesty in the lying <em>New York Times<\/em> for once<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/SB117254247709420157\">The Wall Street Journal<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/scotthorton.org\/fairuse\/the-truth-about-iraqi-efps-by-philip-giraldi\/\">Phil Giraldi<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/original.antiwar.com\/giraldi\/2007\/06\/13\/accusations-pave-way-for-assault-on-iran\/\">another<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And of course, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=opera&amp;q=site%3Aantiwar.com+efps+gareth&amp;sourceid=opera&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8\">many, many great pieces<\/a> by the heroic Gareth Porter.<\/p>\n<p>Okay. So there you have it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update:<\/strong> Former Marine Corps Captain Matthew Hoh writes: &#8220;Yes the EFPs were all made in Iraq, in workshops by Iraqis. I was at JIEDDO (joint IED defeat organization) in 2008. &#8230; I can confirm the intelligence on all that.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Due to the current ubiquity of claims that Iran killed 600 Americans in Iraq War II, I figured it might be worth bringing up the fact that that is a complete and damnable lie. In the case of Petraeus&#8217;s surge against Sadrist forces in Sadr City and Najaf in 2007 and 2008, Sadr was the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,32,3],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-34471","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-iran","category-iraq","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34471","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/39"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34471"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34471\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34481,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34471\/revisions\/34481"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34471"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34471"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34471"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=34471"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}