{"id":39777,"date":"2022-05-13T07:17:03","date_gmt":"2022-05-13T15:17:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=39777"},"modified":"2022-05-13T07:17:03","modified_gmt":"2022-05-13T15:17:03","slug":"the-war-in-ukraine-highlights-two-empires-in-decline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2022\/05\/13\/the-war-in-ukraine-highlights-two-empires-in-decline\/","title":{"rendered":"The War in Ukraine Highlights Two&nbsp;Empires in Decline"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_39780\" style=\"width: 522px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39780\" src=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/512px-Evil_empires_bumper_sticker.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"169\" class=\"size-full wp-image-39780\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/512px-Evil_empires_bumper_sticker-300x99.png 300w, https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/512px-Evil_empires_bumper_sticker.png 512w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-39780\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><i>Bumper sticker graphic by John Walker. Public Domain.<\/i><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Nearly three months into the war Ukraine, events upended quite a few assumptions by quite a few people. I count myself in that crowd.<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t expect Vladimir Putin to order the invasion.<\/p>\n<p>When he did, I expected it to go the way of the 2008 Russo-Georgian War &#8211; a quick rout of Ukrainian forces, a stern &#8220;don&#8217;t ever do that again&#8221; warning from Putin (as with Ukraine, the Georgia dust-up had to do with attempts to re-conquer seceded, pro-Russian areas), and a quick return to International Relations Business as Usual.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>When it didn&#8217;t go that way, I at least expected Russian forces to wrap up the obvious objectives &#8211; securing the seceded Donetsk and Luhansk People&#8217;s Republicans and a land corridor along the Azov coast connecting them to Crimea &#8211; in time for Putin to give a &#8220;mission accomplished&#8221; speech on World War Two Victory Day (May 9), wag a &#8220;don&#8217;t do that again&#8221; finger at Kyiv, and stand down.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, Putin seems to have made a poor decision and bought himself a quagmire. Some blame his inability to get the job done on a US\/NATO &#8220;proxy war,&#8221; and they&#8217;re not wrong, but it&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s anything new or novel in the idea. The US and Russia have been playing the &#8220;proxy war&#8221; game since the beginning of the Cold War, each assisting the other&#8217;s opponents in an attempt to expand their own empire and limit the expansion of the other.<\/p>\n<p>In the 1990s, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Walker_(programmer)#In_popular_culture\">John Walker&#8217;s &#8220;bumper sticker&#8221; graphic<\/a> popped up on the Internet: A Soviet flag with an &#8220;X&#8221; through it, next to an American flag without the &#8220;X.&#8221; The slogan:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Evil Empires &#8211; One Down, One to Go &#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Both empires are, indeed, going, and the US &#8220;proxy&#8221; war in Ukraine, even if it brings about a Russian defeat, will likely hasten the US empire&#8217;s decline as onlooking regimes realign &#8211; not necessarily &#8220;with Russia,&#8221; but toward a studied neutrality.<\/p>\n<p>Some take Putin&#8217;s decision to invade Ukraine as evidence that he aspires to reconstitute the Soviet empire. But while he&#8217;s described that empire&#8217;s disintegration as a &#8220;geopolitical catastrophe,&#8221; his record suggests he&#8217;s less interested in reconstituting it than in preserving some semblance of its remnant state&#8217;s &#8220;sphere of influence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If either &#8220;proxy war&#8221; party is guilty of &#8220;reconstitution&#8221; (even &#8220;expansion&#8221;) hubris, it&#8217;s the United States. Instead of taking &#8220;yes&#8221; for an answer, reaping a peace dividend, and moving to a peace economy when the Soviet empire collapsed, the US reveled in its role as self-perceived &#8220;only remaining superpower&#8221; and went right back to fighting &#8211; and losing &#8211; wars of aggression and conquest. Only when it brought prospective NATO expansion to Russia&#8217;s border with Ukraine did Putin rouse himself to real belligerence.<\/p>\n<p>While the timelines are very different, both the Soviet and US imperial bankruptcies resemble the process of Mike&#8217;s in Ernest Hemingway&#8217;s The Sun Also Rises: &#8220;Gradually and then suddenly.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For the US, &#8220;suddenly&#8221; now knocks at the door. The alternative being nuclear holocaust, might I suggest that we consider beating our swords into plowshares?<\/p>\n<p><i>Thomas L. Knapp is director and senior news analyst at the <a href=\"http:\/\/thegarrisoncenter.org\/\">William Lloyd Garrison Center for Libertarian Advocacy Journalism<\/a>. He lives and works in north central Florida. <\/i><i>This article is reprinted with permission from William Lloyd Garrison Center for Libertarian Advocacy Journalism.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nearly three months into the war Ukraine, events upended quite a few assumptions by quite a few people. I count myself in that crowd. I didn&#8217;t expect Vladimir Putin to order the invasion. 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