{"id":41062,"date":"2022-11-02T09:53:41","date_gmt":"2022-11-02T17:53:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=41062"},"modified":"2022-11-02T09:53:41","modified_gmt":"2022-11-02T17:53:41","slug":"matt-duss-and-ray-mcgovern-debate-u-s-policy-on-russia-nato-and-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2022\/11\/02\/matt-duss-and-ray-mcgovern-debate-u-s-policy-on-russia-nato-and-more\/","title":{"rendered":"Matt Duss and Ray McGovern Debate U.S.&nbsp;Policy on Russia, NATO, and More"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>On today&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.democracynow.org\">Democracy Now!<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>As the U.S. pours billions in military aid into Ukraine, we host a debate on the Biden administration\u2019s response to the war and U.S. policy toward Russia amid increasing calls among progressives for a diplomatic end to the conflict. We speak to former Bernie Sanders foreign policy adviser Matt Duss, now a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst who specialized in the Soviet Union. \u201cEveryone understands that at some point there will need to be a negotiation to bring this war to a close, but I think the tension within the progressive community comes to when and how that diplomacy actually takes place,\u201d says Duss. McGovern stressest that U.S. policymakers must understand Russia\u2019s motivations, saying Russia sees the eastward expansion of NATO as threatening its core interests akin to how the United States viewed the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s. \u201cWe need to go back and figure out how this all started in order to figure out how to end it,\u201d says McGovern.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/embed\/story\/2022\/11\/2\/matt_duss_ray_mcgovern_debate_us\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On today&#8217;s Democracy Now! As the U.S. pours billions in military aid into Ukraine, we host a debate on the Biden administration\u2019s response to the war and U.S. policy toward Russia amid increasing calls among progressives for a diplomatic end to the conflict. We speak to former Bernie Sanders foreign policy adviser Matt Duss, now [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-41062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41062","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41062"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41062\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41066,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41062\/revisions\/41066"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41062"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41062"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41062"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=41062"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}