{"id":41248,"date":"2022-12-02T08:56:27","date_gmt":"2022-12-02T16:56:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=41248"},"modified":"2022-12-02T08:56:27","modified_gmt":"2022-12-02T16:56:27","slug":"feet-on-the-ground-in-st-petersburg-the-public-mood","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2022\/12\/02\/feet-on-the-ground-in-st-petersburg-the-public-mood\/","title":{"rendered":"Feet on the Ground in St. Petersburg: The&nbsp;Public&nbsp;Mood"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the first questions put to me by a reader via the Comments function with respect to Monday\u2019s report of my initial impressions after arriving in St Petersburg was: and what is the general mood of people? I begged off answering, saying that I would have to speak to a lot more people before I could confidently answer that question.<\/p>\n<p>And in all truth, what I am about to say is still based on a very small sampling, combined with observations of what is being said on public television. But I think the overall contours of the \u2018public mood\u2019 are emerging to my satisfaction and can be shared.<\/p>\n<p>In a nutshell: \u2018life goes on.\u2019 The fear of economic upheaval, fear of losing one\u2019s job or small business, fear of price inflation and volatile exchange rates which I saw at the beginning of the Special Military Operation &#8211; all of that has dissipated. In my own immediate surroundings nothing could confirm that better than what occurred yesterday in our dealings with the first prospective Buyer of our little farm property south of Petersburg. In mid-September, she had placed a deposit on the purchase with the broker but then backed out of the deal over fears for the future when the partial mobilization was announced. Yesterday she sat down with us in the notary\u2019s office and then at the bank which was opening escrow accounts for execution of the sale-purchase. She signed all the papers and the deal proceeded to the stage of re-registration of the title deeds. That was an unspoken but dramatic confirmation that someone from the ranks of the Russian middle class, someone working for a living, has enough confidence in the future to make a personal investment in a fixed asset that you cannot put in the back of your car and take across the border.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I offer another vivid impression from the long conversation with our real estate agent who drove us out to the dacha the day before signing the bill of sale for a final inspection of the property with the Buyer. The agent is another good marker for the Russian middle class of hard working professionals who have a city apartment, own a dacha and a good car to get out there and for whom the impact of the ongoing war may be measured more in abstract concerns than in immediate threats such as the mobilization of a son or husband. To be sure, there is a risk to her revenues from rising mortgage rates when state subsidies are removed in the new year, bringing down customer flows to her agency and also bringing down housing prices generally. But her greater concern is how the harsh limitation on issuance of visas to Russian tourists by Western European countries and the still harsher cut-off of air connections with the world remove or impinge on her great pleasure of travel abroad for vacations.<\/p>\n<p>Our real estate agent works in what was until 24 February an American owned franchise business of global proportions. She knew and had colleagues in the States who now write to her arguing that she must take action to protest her government\u2019s invasion of Ukraine. She is sympathetic to their reasoning that the war was unprovoked and unnecessary. But she says there is nothing she can do about it so her mission is just to keep her head down and get on with life. She keeps a very close eye on the euro\/ruble exchange rate, on air fares to Istanbul and other gateways to the wide world for Russian tourists. She found a splendid solution for her own next vacation, which will be a week in Antalya, Turkey; for that route the air fares charged to charter flight passengers remain low and affordable.<\/p>\n<p>I add, parenthetically, that travel abroad for wealthy Russians is no problem. For the medium wealthy, the several thousand extra euros that flying via Istanbul or Dubai add to their vacation costs are tolerable. For the super wealthy, there are plenty of private jets available to make life comfortable and worry-free when you seek a winter break in the Alps or on a tropical beach.<\/p>\n<p>Riding the metro yesterday around St Petersburg, I saw a moderately well dressed public around me \u2013 no fur coats or hats, but then again no sneakers or torn jeans. Most everyone was busy reading or typing into their electronic gadgets. And yet, unlike in Brussels, they were attentive enough to their surroundings and to traditional courtesy to rise and offer their seats to women with young children or to the elderly. That is something you do not see often in downtown Brussels, apart from among the ever courteous Moroccan immigrants.<\/p>\n<p>No one around me was displaying a Z in support of the war effort. On the other hand, there is no mention in social media about any anti-war protests to come in the days or weeks ahead. What we do read and hear is that more than 100 State Duma members have voluntarily signed up to fight and are now at the front in the Donbas. In the broader countryside, ranking officials in the provincial governments have done the same. That is to say, we hear about a personal commitment to defend the Motherland by people in power, which has no equivalent whatsoever in the political life of little Belgium or the great big USA. Why that is so would be an interesting question to put to Mr. Biden.<\/p>\n<p>The Russian state television news programs that I watch provide very little useful information that would allow viewers to understand the overall situation on the ground in the Ukraine war. There is a lot of coverage of destruction in Russian towns near the border with Ukraine coming from Ukrainian artillery and rockets. There is a lot of coverage from isolated areas along the extensive front where Ukrainian and Russian forces are locked in vicious battles. Oh, yes, there is a lot of coverage of Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure and on blackouts in Ukrainian cities. Surely that brings joy to Russia\u2019s super patriots and some comfort to the millions of ordinary Russians who were outraged on viewing the videos posted online a week ago by gleeful Ukrainian soldiers when they killed in cold blood ten or more unarmed Russian POWs lying on the ground before them, in violation of the Geneva Conventions and simple humanity.<\/p>\n<p>On the talk shows, occasionally something valuable to the general public continues to be aired. I think in particular of last night\u2019s Vladimir Solovyov program when panelists raised two very interesting and important issues shedding light on the big picture.<\/p>\n<p>The first concerned the just announced American contract to manufacture an advanced air defense system <strong>for delivery to Ukraine in 2024<\/strong>. Since it is increasingly likely that there will be no viable Ukrainian military forces left after the next Russian offensive in December-January, one has to ask about the logic of this latest military contract. The answer, according to the panelist is that this fits the scenario of Washington\u2019s \u201clong war\u201d on Russia: Ukraine may disappear as a power but there will then be another nearby platform for the U.S. war of attrition against Moscow as the decade proceeds. Perhaps Poland? Perhaps Finland? And the logical response of Russia has to be not to enter into any negotiations with Kiev or to consider any halt to military operations since the pause would only be used to regain advantage against Russia as the \u201clong war\u201d continues. Ukraine, and through Ukraine, NATO, must be smashed now.<\/p>\n<p>The second issue worthy of note concerned the resolution passed by the European Parliament a week ago naming Russia as a \u201cstate sponsoring terrorism.\u201d In the Russian media, this was initially laughed at. Commentators noted that resolutions of the European Parliament have no legal force and are nothing more than a public relations exercise. However, the panelist said that such an interpretation is incorrect. The resolution of the European Parliament has spawned moves in EU Member States that will have legal force and are highly prejudicial to Russia\u2019s interests. As an example, he pointed to the new French initiative to create a tribunal to hear cases of Russia\u2019s alleged war crimes in its Ukraine campaign. Here again the Russian airtime was given over to explaining why \u2018kiss and make up\u2019 with the Western world is not an option for Russia at this time.<\/p>\n<p>It is not my style to refer readers to the interviews or writings of others, but I will break that rule now by offering the link to an invaluable estimate of the balance of military forces between Russia and Ukraine as we head into winter: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In this interview, Colonel Douglas Macgregor explains in detail and with great authority how American intelligence now puts the mustered Russian forces in and near Ukraine at over 500,000 men with vast numbers of tanks, precision missiles, bombers, helicopters and other equipment at the ready. He expects this to move out into the field and overrun the whole Ukrainian military once the ground becomes fully frozen and can support the heavy vehicles and artillery, namely as from mid-December.<\/p>\n<p><strong>See below translation into French (Youri)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>L&#8217;humeur de la rue \u00e0 Saint-P\u00e9tersbourg<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>L&#8217;une des premi\u00e8res questions qui m&#8217;a \u00e9t\u00e9 pos\u00e9e par un lecteur via la fonction &#8220;Commentaires&#8221; \u00e0 propos du rapport de lundi sur mes premi\u00e8res impressions apr\u00e8s mon arriv\u00e9e \u00e0 Saint-P\u00e9tersbourg \u00e9tait la suivante : quelle est l&#8217;humeur g\u00e9n\u00e9rale des gens ? Je me suis abstenu de r\u00e9pondre, arguant qu&#8217;il me faudrait parler \u00e0 beaucoup plus de gens avant de pouvoir r\u00e9pondre de mani\u00e8re satisfaisante \u00e0 cette question.<\/p>\n<p>Et en toute v\u00e9rit\u00e9, ce que je vais dire est encore bas\u00e9 sur un tr\u00e8s petit \u00e9chantillon, combin\u00e9 \u00e0 des observations de ce qui se dit \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision publique. Mais je pense que les contours g\u00e9n\u00e9raux de &#8220;l&#8217;humeur du public&#8221; se d\u00e9gagent de fa\u00e7on satisfaisante et peuvent \u00eatre partag\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>En un mot : &#8220;la vie continue&#8221;. La peur des bouleversements \u00e9conomiques, la peur de perdre son emploi ou sa petite entreprise, la peur de l&#8217;inflation des prix et de la volatilit\u00e9 des taux de change que j&#8217;ai constat\u00e9e au d\u00e9but de l&#8217;op\u00e9ration militaire sp\u00e9ciale &#8211; tout cela s&#8217;est dissip\u00e9. Dans mon environnement imm\u00e9diat, rien ne pourrait mieux le confirmer que ce qui s&#8217;est pass\u00e9 hier dans nos rapports avec le premier acheteur potentiel de notre petite propri\u00e9t\u00e9 agricole au sud de Petersburg. \u00c0 la mi-septembre, elle avait vers\u00e9 un acompte sur l&#8217;achat aupr\u00e8s du courtier, mais s&#8217;\u00e9tait ensuite r\u00e9tract\u00e9e en raison de ses craintes pour l&#8217;avenir \u00e0 l&#8217;annonce de la mobilisation partielle. Hier, elle s&#8217;est assise avec nous chez le notaire, puis \u00e0 la banque qui ouvrait des comptes s\u00e9questres pour l&#8217;ex\u00e9cution de la vente-achat. Elle a sign\u00e9 tous les papiers et l&#8217;affaire est pass\u00e9e \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9tape du r\u00e9enregistrement des titres de propri\u00e9t\u00e9. C&#8217;\u00e9tait une confirmation tacite mais spectaculaire que quelqu&#8217;un issu des rangs de la classe moyenne russe, quelqu&#8217;un qui travaille pour gagner sa vie, a suffisamment confiance en l&#8217;avenir pour faire un investissement personnel dans un actif fixe que vous ne pouvez pas mettre \u00e0 l&#8217;arri\u00e8re de votre voiture pour passer la fronti\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<p>Je garde une autre impression vive de la longue conversation avec notre agent immobilier qui nous a conduits \u00e0 la datcha la veille de la signature de l&#8217;acte de vente pour une inspection finale de la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 avec l&#8217;acheteur. L&#8217;agent est un autre bon marqueur de la classe moyenne russe, compos\u00e9e de professionnels qui travaillent dur, ont un appartement en ville, poss\u00e8dent une datcha et une bonne voiture pour s&#8217;y rendre, et pour qui l&#8217;impact de la guerre en cours se mesure davantage en termes de pr\u00e9occupations abstraites que de menaces imm\u00e9diates telles que la mobilisation d&#8217;un fils ou d&#8217;un mari. Certes, ses revenus risquent d&#8217;\u00eatre affect\u00e9s par la hausse des taux hypoth\u00e9caires lorsque les subventions de l&#8217;\u00c9tat seront supprim\u00e9es l&#8217;ann\u00e9e prochaine, ce qui entra\u00eenera une baisse des flux de clients vers son agence et une baisse g\u00e9n\u00e9rale des prix de l&#8217;immobilier. Mais ce qui la pr\u00e9occupe le plus, c&#8217;est de savoir comment les restrictions s\u00e9v\u00e8res impos\u00e9es par les pays d&#8217;Europe occidentale \u00e0 la d\u00e9livrance de visas aux touristes russes et l&#8217;interruption encore plus s\u00e9v\u00e8re des liaisons a\u00e9riennes avec le reste du monde vont supprimer ou compromettre son grand plaisir de voyager \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9tranger pour ses vacances.<\/p>\n<p>Notre agent immobilier travaille dans ce qui \u00e9tait jusqu&#8217;au 24 f\u00e9vrier une entreprise franchis\u00e9e de dimension mondiale appartenant \u00e0 des Am\u00e9ricains. Elle connaissait et avait des coll\u00e8gues aux \u00c9tats-Unis qui lui \u00e9crivent maintenant pour lui dire qu&#8217;elle doit agir pour protester contre l&#8217;invasion de l&#8217;Ukraine par son gouvernement. Elle est sensible \u00e0 leur raisonnement selon lequel la guerre n&#8217;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 provoqu\u00e9e et n&#8217;\u00e9tait pas n\u00e9cessaire. Mais elle dit qu&#8217;elle ne peut rien y faire et que sa mission consiste simplement \u00e0 faire profil bas et \u00e0 continuer \u00e0 vivre. Elle suit de tr\u00e8s pr\u00e8s le taux de change euro\/rouble, les tarifs a\u00e9riens vers Istanbul et d&#8217;autres portes d&#8217;acc\u00e8s au vaste monde pour les touristes russes. Elle a trouv\u00e9 une solution splendide pour ses prochaines vacances, qui se d\u00e9rouleront pendant une semaine \u00e0 Antalya, en Turquie ; sur cette ligne, les tarifs a\u00e9riens appliqu\u00e9s aux passagers des vols charter restent bas et abordables.<\/p>\n<p>J&#8217;ajoute, entre parenth\u00e8ses, que les voyages \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9tranger pour les Russes ais\u00e9s ne posent aucun probl\u00e8me. Pour les personnes moyennement riches, les quelques milliers d&#8217;euros suppl\u00e9mentaires que les vols via Istanbul ou Duba\u00ef ajoutent \u00e0 leurs frais de vacances sont tol\u00e9rables. Pour les super fortun\u00e9s, il existe de nombreux jets priv\u00e9s qui rendent la vie confortable et sans souci lorsque vous cherchez \u00e0 passer des vacances d&#8217;hiver dans les Alpes ou sur une plage tropicale.<\/p>\n<p>En prenant le m\u00e9tro hier autour de Saint-P\u00e9tersbourg, j&#8217;ai vu un public moyennement bien habill\u00e9 autour de moi &#8211; pas de manteaux de fourrure ou de chapeaux, mais aussi pas de baskets ou de jeans d\u00e9chir\u00e9s. La plupart des gens \u00e9taient occup\u00e9s \u00e0 lire ou \u00e0 taper dans leurs gadgets \u00e9lectroniques. Et pourtant, contrairement \u00e0 Bruxelles, ils \u00e9taient suffisamment attentifs \u00e0 leur environnement et \u00e0 la courtoisie traditionnelle pour se lever et offrir leur place \u00e0 des femmes avec de jeunes enfants ou \u00e0 des personnes \u00e2g\u00e9es. C&#8217;est quelque chose que l&#8217;on ne voit pas souvent dans le centre-ville de Bruxelles, hormis parmi les immigr\u00e9s marocains toujours courtois.<\/p>\n<p>Personne autour de moi n&#8217;affichait un Z en soutien \u00e0 l&#8217;effort de guerre. D&#8217;autre part, les m\u00e9dias sociaux ne font pas mention de manifestations anti-guerre dans les jours ou les semaines \u00e0 venir. Ce que nous lisons et entendons, c&#8217;est que plus de 100 membres de la Douma d&#8217;\u00c9tat se sont volontairement engag\u00e9s \u00e0 combattre et sont maintenant au front dans le Donbass. Dans les campagnes, des fonctionnaires de haut rang des gouvernements provinciaux ont fait de m\u00eame. En d&#8217;autres termes, nous entendons parler d&#8217;un engagement personnel des personnes au pouvoir \u00e0 d\u00e9fendre la patrie, qui n&#8217;a aucun \u00e9quivalent dans la vie politique de la petite Belgique ou des grands \u00c9tats-Unis. Il serait int\u00e9ressant de demander \u00e0 M. Biden pourquoi il en est ainsi.<\/p>\n<p>Les programmes d&#8217;information de la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision d&#8217;\u00c9tat russe que je regarde fournissent tr\u00e8s peu d&#8217;informations utiles qui permettraient aux t\u00e9l\u00e9spectateurs de comprendre la situation g\u00e9n\u00e9rale sur le terrain dans la guerre en Ukraine. Il y a beaucoup de reportages sur la destruction des villes russes pr\u00e8s de la fronti\u00e8re avec l&#8217;Ukraine par l&#8217;artillerie et les roquettes ukrainiennes. Il y a beaucoup de reportages sur des zones isol\u00e9es le long du vaste front o\u00f9 les forces ukrainiennes et russes sont engag\u00e9es dans des combats acharn\u00e9s. Oh, oui, on parle beaucoup des frappes de missiles russes sur les infrastructures ukrainiennes et des coupures de courant dans les villes ukrainiennes. Cela apporte s\u00fbrement de la joie aux super patriotes russes et un peu de r\u00e9confort aux millions de Russes ordinaires qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 indign\u00e9s en regardant les vid\u00e9os mises en ligne il y a une semaine par des soldats ukrainiens joyeux lorsqu&#8217;ils ont tu\u00e9 de sang-froid dix prisonniers de guerre russes non arm\u00e9s ou plus gisant sur le sol devant eux, en violation des conventions de Gen\u00e8ve et de la simple humanit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Dans les talk-shows, il arrive de temps en temps que l&#8217;on diffuse quelque chose de valable pour le grand public. Je pense en particulier \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9mission de Vladimir Solovyov d&#8217;hier soir, o\u00f9 les intervenants ont soulev\u00e9 deux questions tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressantes et importantes, \u00e9clairant la situation dans son ensemble.<\/p>\n<p>Le premier concerne le contrat am\u00e9ricain qui vient d&#8217;\u00eatre annonc\u00e9 pour la fabrication d&#8217;un syst\u00e8me de d\u00e9fense a\u00e9rienne avanc\u00e9 qui sera livr\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;Ukraine en 2024. Comme il est de plus en plus probable qu&#8217;il n&#8217;y aura plus de forces militaires ukrainiennes viables apr\u00e8s la prochaine offensive russe en d\u00e9cembre-janvier, on peut s&#8217;interroger sur la logique de ce dernier contrat militaire. La r\u00e9ponse, selon le sp\u00e9cialiste, est que cela correspond au sc\u00e9nario de la &#8220;longue guerre&#8221; de Washington contre la Russie : L&#8217;Ukraine peut dispara\u00eetre en tant que puissance, mais il y aura alors une autre plate-forme proche pour la guerre d&#8217;usure des \u00c9tats-Unis contre Moscou au cours de la d\u00e9cennie. Peut-\u00eatre la Pologne ? Peut-\u00eatre la Finlande ? Et la r\u00e9ponse logique de la Russie doit \u00eatre de ne pas entamer de n\u00e9gociations avec Kiev ou d&#8217;envisager un arr\u00eat des op\u00e9rations militaires, car cette pause ne serait utilis\u00e9e que pour reprendre l&#8217;avantage sur la Russie alors que la &#8220;longue guerre&#8221; se poursuit. L&#8217;Ukraine, et \u00e0 travers elle, l&#8217;OTAN, doit \u00eatre \u00e9cras\u00e9e maintenant.<\/p>\n<p>La deuxi\u00e8me question digne d&#8217;int\u00e9r\u00eat concerne la r\u00e9solution adopt\u00e9e par le Parlement europ\u00e9en il y a une semaine, d\u00e9signant la Russie comme un &#8220;\u00c9tat soutenant le terrorisme&#8221;. Les m\u00e9dias russes se sont d&#8217;abord moqu\u00e9s de cette r\u00e9solution. Les commentateurs ont fait remarquer que les r\u00e9solutions du Parlement europ\u00e9en n&#8217;ont aucune valeur juridique et ne sont rien d&#8217;autre qu&#8217;un exercice de relations publiques. Cependant, le participant a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 qu&#8217;une telle interpr\u00e9tation est incorrecte. La r\u00e9solution du Parlement europ\u00e9en a donn\u00e9 lieu \u00e0 des mesures dans les \u00c9tats membres de l&#8217;UE qui auront force de loi et qui sont hautement pr\u00e9judiciables aux int\u00e9r\u00eats de la Russie. \u00c0 titre d&#8217;exemple, il a cit\u00e9 la nouvelle initiative fran\u00e7aise visant \u00e0 cr\u00e9er un tribunal charg\u00e9 d&#8217;entendre les cas de crimes de guerre pr\u00e9sum\u00e9s commis par la Russie dans le cadre de sa campagne en Ukraine. L\u00e0 encore, le temps d&#8217;antenne russe a \u00e9t\u00e9 consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;explication des raisons pour lesquelles &#8220;se r\u00e9concilier&#8221; avec le monde occidental n&#8217;est pas une option pour la Russie \u00e0 l&#8217;heure actuelle.<\/p>\n<p>Il n&#8217;est pas dans mon style de renvoyer les lecteurs aux interviews ou aux \u00e9crits des autres, mais je vais d\u00e9roger \u00e0 cette r\u00e8gle en proposant le lien vers une estimation pr\u00e9cieuse de l&#8217;\u00e9quilibre des forces militaires entre la Russie et l&#8217;Ukraine \u00e0 l&#8217;approche de l&#8217;hiver : <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Dans cette interview, le colonel Douglas Macgregor explique en d\u00e9tail et avec beaucoup de comp\u00e9tence comment les services de renseignement am\u00e9ricains estiment d\u00e9sormais \u00e0 plus de 500 000 hommes les forces russes rassembl\u00e9es en Ukraine et \u00e0 proximit\u00e9, avec un grand nombre de chars, de missiles de pr\u00e9cision, de bombardiers, d&#8217;h\u00e9licopt\u00e8res et d&#8217;autres \u00e9quipements pr\u00eats \u00e0 l&#8217;emploi. Il s&#8217;attend \u00e0 ce que ces forces se d\u00e9placent sur le terrain et submergent l&#8217;ensemble de l&#8217;arm\u00e9e ukrainienne d\u00e8s que le sol sera compl\u00e8tement gel\u00e9 et qu\u2019il pourra supporter les v\u00e9hicules lourds et l&#8217;artillerie, \u00e0 savoir \u00e0 partir de la mi-d\u00e9cembre.<\/p>\n<p><i>Gilbert Doctorow is a Brussels-based political analyst. His latest book is <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Does-Russia-Have-Future-Nonconformist\/dp\/1514665336\/\">Does Russia Have a Future?<\/a><i> Reprinted with permission from <a href=\"https:\/\/gilbertdoctorow.com\/\">his blog<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u00a9 Gilbert Doctorow, 2022<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the first questions put to me by a reader via the Comments function with respect to Monday\u2019s report of my initial impressions after arriving in St Petersburg was: and what is the general mood of people? 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