{"id":43371,"date":"2023-08-05T09:51:00","date_gmt":"2023-08-05T17:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=43371"},"modified":"2023-08-06T13:09:05","modified_gmt":"2023-08-06T21:09:05","slug":"little-known-oppenheimer-thought-hiroshima-would-be-bombed-after-dark","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2023\/08\/05\/little-known-oppenheimer-thought-hiroshima-would-be-bombed-after-dark\/","title":{"rendered":"Little Known: Oppenheimer Thought Hiroshima Would Be Bombed After Dark"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Reprinted with permission from Greg Mitchell\u2019s newsletter <a href=\"https:\/\/oppenheimer2023.substack.com\/\">Oppenheimer: From Hiroshima to Hollywood<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"pullquote\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong>It\u2019s in vain to recall the past, unless it works some influence upon the present.<\/strong><\/em><strong> \u2013\u00a0Charles\u00a0Dickens<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\">\n<picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"1320\" height=\"748\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/56c0338e-abe0-45a1-8065-be23eae84e3c_1320x748.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:748,&quot;width&quot;:1320,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:121250,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/webp&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture>\n<div class=\"image-link-expand\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>In Christopher Nolan\u2019s movie <em>Oppenheimer<\/em>, the physicist who directed the creation of the atomic bomb learns that the new weapon had exploded over a Japanese city on August 6, 1945, when it is broadcast over a public address system at Los Alamos.\u00a0 Almost at the same time he receives a phone call from his boss, the Manhattan Project director, Gen. Leslie R. Groves, informing him that the first bomb had gone off with a \u201ctremendous bang.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Oppie\u2019s fellow scientists are already buzzing and cheering outside as he tells Groves that everyone there is feeling \u201creasonably good\u201d about it, the \u201creasonably\u201d a revealing qualifier. Since he had not conversed with anyone else as yet, how could he make that judgment? He had to be referring to his own, already mixed, emotions. On the other hand, when Groves reminds him about \u201cthe next objective\u201d (that is, the second atomic bomb), the always conflicted but dutiful Oppenheimer replies, \u201cGood\u2026.We won\u2019t be behind schedule on that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Left out of the Nolan movie (and absent from a vast number of accounts of the historic phone call to this day) was what happened before all that, very early in the conversation. According to the official transcript of the call, Oppenheimer asked Groves: \u201cWhen was this, was it after sundown?\u201d It was clearly in the front of his mind.<\/p>\n<p>Groves replied:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>No, unfortunately it had to be in the daytime on account of security of the plane and that was left in the hands of the commanding general over there \u2013 and he knew what the advantages were of doing it after sundown and he was told just all about that, and I said it was up to him \u2013 that it was not paramount but that it was very desirable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, this is an incredibly fascinating and revealing exchange, if little studied.<\/p>\n<p>In previous weeks, Oppenheimer had advised the military on several aspects of the actual use of the weapon over a Japanese city, including the best elevation for detonation to produce the most damage. But it appears he was under the impression that it would be used <em>after dark<\/em>, certainly not at 8:15 in the morning.<\/p>\n<p>Now, this is significant. At night, civilian workers and students would have been at home, along with housewives and the elderly, shielded at least partly by the heat and radiation (if not the blast) produced by the atomic explosion. Eight o\u2019clock in the morning was rush hour in Hiroshima: Men and women on buses and trolleys on the way to work, students heading for school or (as I was told by several of the survivors in Hiroshima) lined up outside in the open for morning roll call or exercise. Thus exposed, thousands of children died in an instant.<\/p>\n<p>Oppenheimer would have sensed immediately what a bomb drop at that hour would have meant in terms of casualties \u2013 and what it signified about our intentions. Had he been misled in advance about the timing? In their exchange, remember, Groves uses the word \u201cunfortunately\u201d in referring to the early morning timing of the blast. And, amazingly, that the \u201ccommanding general\u201d for the mission out in the Pacific had been told \u201call about\u201d the advantages of a nighttime mission, and that this was preferable though not \u201cparamount.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What were these advantages supposedly in Grove\u2019s mind?<\/p>\n<p>One might think that he was referring to the safety of the B-29s, shrouded in the dark. But that would have also made finding the precise center-of-city target visually more difficult (they were not supposed to rely on radar) \u2013 and Groves, in fact, in the Oppenheimer call says the daytime run was decided \u201con account of security of the plane.\u201d So what were the \u201cadvantages\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>We will never know, nor if Groves had misled Oppie about this from the start. In that regard, it is remarkable, though not surprising, to see in the transcript that Groves, perhaps anticipating Oppie\u2019s disapproval, twice in practically one breath assigns responsibility to that other general.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, on that day, one U.S. plane dropped one bomb over one target in Japan, destroying most of a city and dooming over 125,000 people, at least eighty percent of them civilians, to death.<\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"1456\" height=\"830\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/a1a4198c-df66-4091-81ef-2b5f8c7dcbb5_2560x1460.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:830,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:505001,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><i>Greg Mitchell is the author of a dozen books, including \u201cHiroshima in America,\u201d and the recent award-winning <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Beginning-End-Hollywood-Learned-Worrying\/dp\/1620975734\">The Beginning or the End: How Hollywood \u2013 and America \u2013 Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb<\/a><i>, and has directed three documentary films since 2021, including two for PBS (plus award-winning \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/gregmitchphoto.com\/atomic-cover-up\/\">Atomic Cover-up<\/a>\u201d). He has written widely about the atomic bomb and atomic bombings, and their aftermath, for over forty years. He writes often at <a href=\"https:\/\/oppenheimer2023.substack.com\/\">Oppenheimer: From Hiroshima to Hollywood<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reprinted with permission from Greg Mitchell\u2019s newsletter Oppenheimer: From Hiroshima to Hollywood. It\u2019s in vain to recall the past, unless it works some influence upon the present. \u2013\u00a0Charles\u00a0Dickens In Christopher Nolan\u2019s movie Oppenheimer, the physicist who directed the creation of the atomic bomb learns that the new weapon had exploded over a Japanese city on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":466,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-43371","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":"Left out of most accounts, and the new Nolan movie, yet interesting and significant."},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43371","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/466"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43371"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43371\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43390,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43371\/revisions\/43390"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43371"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43371"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43371"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=43371"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}