{"id":52048,"date":"2025-03-12T14:45:56","date_gmt":"2025-03-12T22:45:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=52048"},"modified":"2025-03-12T14:45:56","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T22:45:56","slug":"peter-ford-ambassador-dissident-future-mp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/12\/peter-ford-ambassador-dissident-future-mp\/","title":{"rendered":"Peter Ford: Ambassador, Dissident\u2026 Future&nbsp;MP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Reprinted with permission from the <a href=\"https:\/\/usrussiaaccord.org\/\">American Committee for US-Russia Accord (ACURA)<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Peter Ford is deputy leader of the Workers Party of Britain which bills itself as something quite unheard of in America: socialist <i>and<\/i> socially conservative.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Ford was a career British diplomat, serving as Ambassador to Bahrain (1999-2003) and Syria (2003-2006). Until 2015 he served as representative of the Commissioner-General of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) for Palestine Refugees in the Near East in Amman, Jordan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">He is that rarest of creatures of the British (or any) foreign policy establishment: principled and fearless.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><em><span class=\"gmail-s1\">~ James W. Carden<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: Today I am talking with Ambassador Peter Ford. So Peter, I understand you might soon be standing for office for the Workers Party. Can you tell us a little bit about the Workers\u2019 Party?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: Well, the Workers\u2019 Party hasn\u2019t been around for very long, only four or five years, but it came to prominence a year ago when the leader, George Galloway, who is a veteran actor in British politics on the left, last year got himself elected in a by-election in Rochdale, and made quite a splash because he is an extremely effective orator and he dedicated his victory to the people of Gaza. And that is an important part of the Party\u2019s appeal, as it is pro-peace, anti-imperialism, anti-militarism while being common sense socialist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Hopefully we can repeat that success in Runcorn [an industrial town of about 60,000 near Liverpool] although the odds will be stacked against us, folks in my hometown not being overly concerned about Gaza.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: You described the Workers\u2019 Party as pro-peace. What other parties would you say occupy that kind of space in the UK?<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: Amazingly, historically the British Labor Party occupied some of that space and used to campaign for nuclear disarmament and was generally pro-peace when it was in opposition. But whenever it was in power, it would become very centrist if not downright right-wing and very pro-NATO and would go into any war that was led by the United States.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">It was Blair\u2019s Labor Party that was highly instrumental in kicking off the Iraq war. So there\u2019s really not much left of the peace strand of the Labor party. Having said that, Jeremy Corbyn became leader of Labour a decade ago now and for a few years cleaved to that pro-peace position, until he was ousted in a kind of Labour palace coup.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">So Labour is now totally extreme centrist, meaning that it\u2019s a war party as much as any of the other parties including the British Green Party who are at the moment extremely pro-Ukraine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: So the Green Party\u2019s trajectory in the UK is sort of similar to the Green Party in Germany?<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: Not quite as <em>extreme<\/em> as in Germany, where they\u2019ve been part of the ruling coalition and have been able to indulge their Russophobia to the hilt. But the Green Party here try to masquerade as something of a peace party. But when it comes to concrete issues they are pro-Gaza, but they could not with conviction call themselves anything like a peace party.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: I do want to get to Russia and Ukraine because your prime minister has been very busy over the past couple of weeks. But first, I do want to get a sense of the view within the UK generally about what has been going on in Gaza. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Is it similar to the US? I think, as is well known, Washington pretty much falls lockstep behind whatever Netanyahu wants and we know why that is. There are various domestic constituencies (Evangelicals, Zionists) which are very influential, particularly on Capitol Hill. Is it as monolithic as it is in the United States or are there people who share the views of people like you and Galloway?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: The last couple of years, it\u2019s moved very much in the same direction as the United States. So it would be extremely hard to point to any concrete practical differences between Starmer\u2019s ruling Labour Party and Trump\u2019s administration on Israel.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">The history to this, as I mentioned earlier, is that Jeremy Corbyn, the former Labour leader, was ousted and a key element in his ouster was his support for Palestine. And when Labour defenestrated Corbyn, it was over trumped up charges of antisemitism. And after that, the Labour Party made an absolute fetish of being pro-Israel, in order to live down the previous manufactured stigma and make themselves more respectable in the eyes of the Israel-influenced media.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And it\u2019s proved to be quite a winning formula for them.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">There\u2019s been some contesting from marches in the street and on our campuses \u2013 as in America, and there has been some contesting of Labour\u2019s pro-Israel positions, such as its refusal to support the charges of genocide level by the ICJ\u2014but there\u2019s been no opposition from any political party other than ours, and we don\u2019t get heard.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: You were the UK\u2019s ambassador to Syria from 2003 to 2006, then from 2006 to 2015 you were with UNRWA\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: \u2026Just down there road in Amman. My work in Jordan also covered an area that included Syria. So I\u2019ve been following Syria closely. When I was there, it was the period of the Iraq War when relations with Syria deteriorated, and then later, while I was in Amman, the Arab Spring spread.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: So last year al-Jolani came to power in Syria. Some of us in America viewed the ultimately successful overthrow of the Assad regime with some trepidation. Critics of the Obama-Biden-Trump regime change policy thought that it was a bad idea for the United States to try to overthrow a secular multi-confessional leader and put people linked to al-Qaeda in his place.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Can you tell us how you see things shaking out now that Assad is in Russia? What we might reasonably expect from someone like al-Jolani?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: Well, perhaps the first thing to say, in all honesty, is that the worst has not happened. [Note: Our discussion took place <em>before<\/em> reports surfaced of the massacres of Alawites and Christians now coming out of Syria]. The Islamist regime, which is now in control in Damascus, although it\u2019s the same people who were in Al-Qaeda and even ISIS\u2014it\u2019s the same people with the same ideology\u2014but in power.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Their actions are almost indistinguishable from those of any Arab US satellite. And indeed they are so weak, so dependent for survival on the Western powers that they curry favor with the West to a shameful degree, to a degree that leads them to profess an undying love for Israel and to tolerate without resistance the Israelis now claiming swathes of southern Syria, moving troops across the demarcation line and threatening to incorporate parts of Syria into the Israeli empire.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">So from the selfish Western point of view, with the advent of an al-Qaeda regime, the worst has not happened. Syria has not become a hub for international Islamist terrorism. However, these are early days and it may yet come to pass that the Jolani regime will be removed by ISIS who are by no means a spent force in Syria. The weakness of the new regime could also lead to complications and conflict.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: I wanted to get a sense of the political establishment here \u2013 maybe help me to try and understand why the British political establishment is so similar to the American political establishment when it comes to Russian and Ukraine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: Well, the arrogant British establishment assumes that they can exert influence on Trump and pull him over to the British Russophobic way of thinking. Now I honestly find it difficult to explain why this country is quite so Russophobic. You have to reach back into history, to what was called the Great Game for control of Asia back in the Victorian era, the Crimean war, and then the Russophobia during the Cold War.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">But somehow that doesn\u2019t quite explain why we are so Russophobic today. But it\u2019s a fact and it is shared throughout the British establishment and especially the legacy media\u2014and therefore it is broadly felt at all levels of society.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And there are no pro-Russian voices here. This great free country of ours banished RT and the Russian point of view never gets seriously defended in the mainstream media.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">The British are arrogant, I\u2019m sure this has been picked up on by Trump who is playing Starmer like a cat with a mouse, <\/span><span class=\"gmail-s1\">allowing Starmer to pose as an intermediary with Europe all the while doing Trump\u2019s actual bidding. And I sense that at any moment Trump could put the dagger in Starmer\u2019s ribs, but he chooses not to because the prime minister is proving a useful tool.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">But as you\u2019ll see from today\u2019s British newspapers, the establishment is preening over the British \u201csuccess\u201d in mediating between Zelensky and Trump. And this is what we do in our impoverished post-imperial state. We present ourselves as, if not powerful, then clever, more clever than the Americans. And the situation today with Ukraine reminds me of what happened during Trump I when Boris Johnson flew to Washington before the inauguration to dissuade Trump from withdrawing US troops from Syria.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And with the help from the American deep state, this is what happened, against Trump\u2019s better judgment. And those troops have been left in Syria, making very useful potential targets for Iran and doing nothing useful. But that is an example of how the British malign influence operates. But perhaps this time the boot is on the other foot, and Trump has had enough of being manipulated by the deep state and by clever British diplomats.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: It seems like the establishment here is not dissimilar to our own; there\u2019s kind of a willed ignorance with regard to how the war in Ukraine is going to ultimately play out.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Under no circumstances is Trump going to provide a US backstop, which is what Starmer says is his requirement to put UK troops in. Under no circumstances is Putin going to accept British or French or American troops as peacekeepers.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">But over the last 48 hours or so, the media and the establishment here seems to have banished that from their minds. There\u2019s a lot of preening, as you say, about Starmer\u2019s success in dealing with Trump and Zelensky. But I am searching for it and I can\u2019t find it. What am I missing?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: You\u2019re absolutely in the money, it\u2019s a hoax. In fact, the British are in willful denial and the Europeans are in willful denial and for the reason you stated: Trump and his colleagues keep stating that there will be no US security guarantees and Russia won\u2019t tolerate European troops on the ground in Ukraine anyway. It\u2019s all an <em>enormous<\/em> hoax, but European politicians find it profitable in terms of playing to their domestic audiences and maybe Trump himself indulges them a little bit in order to placate his own domestic audience.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">I\u2019m struck when I watch US television, seeing how the whole Ukraine\/Russia situation is only part of the bigger picture and that Trump\u2019s domestic agenda is what really, really matters.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And he\u2019s got to carry people along like these Republicans who, until just yesterday, thought that Russia was the devil and now all of a sudden are having to adjust to a president who thinks good relations with Russia is a good thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And this is some trick to pull off, and I may be misreading Trump here, you will know better as an American, but I think some of the things he comes out with, like appearing to support in principle the idea of the Europeans forming some kind of peacekeeping force, are designed to placate the anti-Russian Republicans and to just massage things along for these essentially domestic political reasons; sustaining this really <i>stupid<\/i> illusion that there could be a peacekeeping, or what is now more fashionably called a \u201creassurance\u201d force. What a misnomer that is! It would be the absolute opposite. It would be a trip-wire likely to lead to World War III and Trump is absolutely right to resist it at all costs.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">Fortunately, we can count on the adults in the room here, the Russians, to make sure that doesn\u2019t happen and save us from ourselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">And as you have noticed here in London, Trump is getting good media attention because of this useful fiction that there could be a peacekeeping force.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">He must know surely, if he has an ounce of sense, that it is not going to happen. So he can promise this, that, and the other, knowing he\u2019s going to be saved from himself by Putin. He\u2019s not going to be saved from ponying up more for defense, which is a great pity. But the increase [in defense spending] is not going to be absolutely crippling for Britain.<span class=\"gmail-Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p1\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\">It may yet be for Germany.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Carden<\/b>: How do you see things playing out? Do you think that ultimately Trump can get to an agreement with Putin or will talks break down and the fighting continue until it\u2019s absolutely clear to everyone that the Ukrainians can no longer sustain it?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-p4\"><span class=\"gmail-s1\"><b>Ford<\/b>: He could do, but he\u2019d have to bite the bullet and really withdraw military support and, above all, intelligence support targeting \u2013 that would<\/span><span class=\"gmail-s1\">\u00a0bring Ukraine to its knees in quick time. If he doesn\u2019t do that, he\u2019s not going to get his way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>James W. Carden is a columnist and former adviser to the US-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission at the U.S. Department of State. His articles and essays have appeared in a wide variety of publications including The Nation, The American Conservative, Responsible Statecraft, The Spectator, UnHerd, The National Interest, Quartz, The Los Angeles Times, and American Affairs.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reprinted with permission from the American Committee for US-Russia Accord (ACURA). Peter Ford is deputy leader of the Workers Party of Britain which bills itself as something quite unheard of in America: socialist and socially conservative.\u00a0 Ford was a career British diplomat, serving as Ambassador to Bahrain (1999-2003) and Syria (2003-2006). 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