{"id":579,"date":"2004-03-16T17:52:51","date_gmt":"2004-03-17T00:52:51","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2004-03-16T17:52:51","modified_gmt":"2004-03-17T00:52:51","slug":"blaming-spain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2004\/03\/16\/blaming-spain\/","title":{"rendered":"Blaming Spain"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By now everyone even vaguely following events in Spain has undoubtedly noted the pro-Iraq war, conservative and Republican response to the ousting of Aznar&#8217;s PP party in the recent election.  It goes like this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Thanks, Spain! Due to your cowardice, every democracy must anticipate slaughter of their civilians before each election. Way to let 200 of your countrymen die in vain&#8230;.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.freerepublic.com\/focus\/f-news\/1098436\/posts?page=3#3\" target=\"_blank\">FreeRepublic<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><i>Greatly heartened, they are back on their feet and swinging, asking themselves which Western election result they would like to change next.<\/p>\n<p>The blame must, of course, fall squarely on the Spanish electorate. It would be wrong to think, however, that there is anything peculiarly Spanish about their abject surrender.<br \/>\n[&#8230;]<br \/>\nConfronted with terrorism like Al Qaeda&#8217;s, the pampered, fat, comfortable electorates of the West will not fight. They will jump to do the terrorists&#8217; bidding. Change our government? yes, Sir! Stop giving support to President Bush? Yes, yes, Sir! Jump, you flabby swine! How high, Sir? &#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/thecorner\/04_03_14_corner-archive.asp#027303\" target=\"_blank\">John Derbyshire<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>In the three days between the slaughter and the vote, it was widely reported that the atrocity had been designed to influence the election. In allowing it to do so, the Spanish knowingly made Sunday a victory for appeasement and dishonoured their own dead&#8230;.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk\/opinion\/main.jhtml?xml=\/opinion\/2004\/03\/16\/do1602.xml&#038;sSheet=\/opinion\/2004\/03\/16\/ixopinion.html\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Steyn<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These responses illustrate the illogical premises behind the <i>Spain voted for Osama\/appeased terrorists<\/i> jingos currently making the rounds in conservative\/Republican\/liberventionist circles.  <a href=\"http:\/\/lawandpolitics.blogspot.com\/2004_03_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#107940627836348669\" target=\"_blank\">Publius at Legal Fiction<\/a> writes the best rebuttal I&#8217;ve seen:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Let me more clear. I think that everyone agrees that al Qaeda (and terrorism more generally) presents a serious threat and that it must be dealt with. The real debate, however, in both America and the world is about tactics. In other words, everyone agrees that we must fight terrorism, but people disagree on how we should go about it fighting it. As for Bush, people aren\u2019t disagreeing with his goal of eliminating terrorism. They\u2019re disagreeing about whether Bush\u2019s tactics (specifically, the war on Iraq) are helping or hurting the cause.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s my biggest problem with Andrew Sullivan\u2019s defense of Iraq and Bush more generally. He stresses (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\/index.php?dish_inc=archives\/2004_03_07_dish_archive.html#107912250603316328\" target=\"_blank\">over <\/a>and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\/index.php?dish_inc=archives\/2004_03_07_dish_archive.html#107889163099273077\" target=\"_blank\">over<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\/index.php?dish_inc=archives\/2004_02_29_dish_archive.html#107828809524397947\" target=\"_blank\">over<\/a>) that we are at war; that this is not a law enforcement operation; that we must appreciate the war-like aspects of this war we are fighting (did I mention that we\u2019re at war?). Fine. For the moment, I\u2019ll concede that, Andrew. We\u2019re at war. But here\u2019s the problem \u2013 <b>just because we\u2019re at \u201cwar\u201d does not mean that everything that Bush has done is an appropriate way to fight that war<\/b>. One can agree that we\u2019re at war but <b>disagree<\/b> with invading Iraq on the grounds that it was an inappropriate, counterproductive way of <i>fighting that war.<\/i> And I\u2019m getting sick and tired of people classifying my disagreement with Bush\u2019s anti-terrorist strategy as an indication that I don\u2019t realize that we\u2019re at war, or that I don\u2019t sufficiently understand the threat. Bullshit. This is just bullying. It\u2019s framing the debate in such a way that you either agree with everything they&#8217;re saying or you\u2019re voting for Osama. There is no room for claiming that maybe, just maybe, there are different ways of fighting that war and some ways may be better than others.<\/p>\n<p>But now you can understand why Sullivan got so upset about the Spanish election. He and the other pro-Iraq war people have a nagging insecurity about whether it was actually the right thing to do in light of the failure to find weapons or a true terrorist link. In short, postwar developments have called Sullivan\u2019s thesis into question \u2013 that invading Iraq was a necessary part of the war on terror. And that\u2019s why he (and others) are trying so desperately to paint this election as an appeasement of terror or a vote for Osama. They don\u2019t want to admit that people can oppose terror AND the war in Iraq at the same time and still be good people. Or more precisely, they can oppose the Iraq war at the same time they appreciate that we&#8217;re at war. Look, al Qaeda may benefit from the election. And it will certainly hurt America\u2019s policy in Iraq, and that is upsetting. That said, it\u2019s stretching plausibility to say that the voters were endorsing Osama or appeasing terror three days after millions of people took to the streets to mourn the nation\u2019s worst terrorist attack in history. These people were voting against Aznar\u2019s dubious attempt to exploit fear of terrorism in order to gain support for his policies (both pre and post-3\/11). They were also rejecting Bush\u2019s tactics in fighting terrorism, which Aznar had adopted so enthusiastically.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not only is the pro-Iraq invasion peoples&#8217; Osama-vote\/appeasement argument illogical, it is also demonstrative of a mindset that is hyperdefensive of Bush&#8217;s tactics specifically.  Any criticism of the conduct of the Bush Administration as it claims to be &#8220;fighting terrorism&#8221; is construed as pro-Osama appeasement.  Maybe, as Pubius says above, they&#8217;re sensitive about the subject because the invasion they were so keen on has turned out to be not only based on lies but a bloody quagmire and money pit.  On top of that, it clearly hasn&#8217;t made a dent in terrorism.<\/p>\n<p>One more insightful Publius graf:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>The lesson here is that the American blogosphere should be a little more humble in the explanations of the election than it has been. For example, Andrew Sullivan, John Derbyshire, and Glenn Reynolds have all simplified the election by saying that the Spaniards voted for Osama; that they appeased terrorists; that they fail to understand the terrorist threat; etc. What\u2019s fascinating about this collective response is that it\u2019s more of a reflection of their own thoughts than it is an assessment of the election. They\u2019re not really engaging Spanish politics, they\u2019re responding to their American critics on the issue of Bush\u2019s war against terrorism. For them (and others on the other side of the spectrum), the Spanish election has simply become an inkblot test and these people are projecting their values upon it to justify their domestic policy preferences.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By now everyone even vaguely following events in Spain has undoubtedly noted the pro-Iraq war, conservative and Republican response to the ousting of Aznar&#8217;s PP party in the recent election. It goes like this: Thanks, Spain! Due to your cowardice, every democracy must anticipate slaughter of their civilians before each election. 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