{"id":9664,"date":"2011-04-27T19:40:58","date_gmt":"2011-04-28T03:40:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=9664"},"modified":"2011-04-27T19:40:58","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T03:40:58","slug":"libya-gaffe-us-death-toll-estimate-wont-be-accurate-until-ground-troops-arrive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/27\/libya-gaffe-us-death-toll-estimate-wont-be-accurate-until-ground-troops-arrive\/","title":{"rendered":"Libya Gaffe: US Death Toll Estimate Won&#8217;t Be Accurate &#8216;Until&#8217; Ground Troops Arrive"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ambassador Gene Cretz&#8217;s estimate for a death toll in Libya today was 30,000 which, if I&#8217;m remembering correctly, is about as much as the US was willing to cop to for the entire Iraq War until the WikiLeaks documents showed that to be a deliberate (and dramatic) undercount. <\/p>\n<p>The real story wasn&#8217;t so much the surprisingly high death count, however, but Cretz&#8217;s admission that the toll was likely inaccurate, and his subsequent admission that an accurate figure wasn&#8217;t possible &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfgate.com\/cgi-bin\/article.cgi?f=\/n\/a\/2011\/04\/27\/national\/w112045D03.DTL\">until we really get more hands-on experience on the ground<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Note he didn&#8217;t say &#8220;if&#8221; US troops end up on the ground, he says &#8220;until,&#8221; suggesting it is carved in stone that it will happen at some future date. Something the administration has repeatedly been insisting won&#8217;t happen. <\/p>\n<p>Secretary of Defense Robert Gates even went so far as to rule this out &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2011\/03\/31\/gates-no-us-ground-troops-in-libya-as-long-as-im-in-this-job\/\">as long as I&#8217;m in this job<\/a>,&#8221; an assurance that is far less meaningful with officials saying he will be gone by the <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/afp\/20110427\/pl_afp\/usmilitarygatesobama\">end of June<\/a>. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ambassador Gene Cretz&#8217;s estimate for a death toll in Libya today was 30,000 which, if I&#8217;m remembering correctly, is about as much as the US was willing to cop to for the entire Iraq War until the WikiLeaks documents showed that to be a deliberate (and dramatic) undercount. The real story wasn&#8217;t so much the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":32,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-9664","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9664","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/32"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9664"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9664\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9666,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9664\/revisions\/9666"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9664"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9664"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9664"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=9664"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}