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ally of hindus
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(6/5/02 12:48:35 am)
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This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
I am sick of this loudmouth know-it-all Justin Raimondo and his holier-than-thou acts. He has for a long time attacked American conservatives and Zionism and now he is attacking Hindutva. Read this fool's article:

www.antiwar.com/justin/j060302.html

If there is any way you folks can find to make this buffoon's life into a veritable hell, please do it.
Sheesh, what an @#%$!

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 7:57:50 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
This idiot has collected lies from Islamic websites and unprofessionally pasted them on to this article without checking their legitimacy. I'm going to email this article to the RSS and let them take care of this ******** legally. Maybe after he gets sued he might see some sense.

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 8:38:17 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
This article is filled with a lot of emotional ranting. However, there are three, clear lies in this article:

LIE # 1: “The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological center of Hindutva, has a provision in its constitution that its leader must be a blue-eyed Sarasvat Brahmin.”

LIE # 2: “I hesitate to use the term ‘neo-Nazi’ to describe a contemporary political movement, as it has become almost a ritualistic term of abuse. However, in this case, the label fits precisely: to begin with, the Hindutva theory of ‘Aryan’ racial superiority is nearly identical to that of the German Nazis. Hitler’s followers borrowed not only the swastika but also adopted other mythic aspects of Hindu mysticism, such as the alleged Arctic origins of the "Aryan" race propagated by B. G. Tilak and others.”

LIE # 3: “One Western diplomat worried aloud that ‘these people have never heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,’ but, then again, perhaps Westerners have trouble understanding the concept of reincarnation, which figures prominently in the religions of Asia, and especially in the Hindu tradition. You may be incinerated by a nuclear bomb in this life, but don't worry – you'll come back. Perhaps as a citizen of a more civilized country, where the idea of mass death is unthinkable. It's the next best thing to a green card.”


Lies 2 and 3 can be disputed. However, the first lie is a clear case of slander and can be used as grounds for legal action. I wouldn’t want to be in Justin Raimondo’s shoes when the court notice is delivered! This fool should’ve checked up on his sources before opening his mouth.

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 8:55:05 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
Okay, my email has been sent.

Quote:
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 06:45:14 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Neeraj" <sick_n_tired_of_this@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject: ANTI-HINDUTVA RHETORIC AT ANTIWAR.COM

To: Vishwa@RSS.Org, webmaster@vhp.org, gensecy@vhp-america.org, vhp-america@hindunet.org, srtiwari@hotmail.com, thejains@aol.com, bemra@yahoo.com, hssusa@hindunet.org

Namaskar,

The following concerns a highly anti-Hindutva article which has been posted at http://www.antiwar.com/ by Justin Raimondo. This article is filled with a lot of emotional ranting. However, there are three, clear lies in this article:

LIE # 1: “The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological center of Hindutva, has a provision in its constitution that its leader must be a blue-eyed Sarasvat Brahmin.”

LIE # 2: “I hesitate to use the term ‘neo-Nazi’ to describe a contemporary political movement, as it has become almost a ritualistic term of abuse. However, in this case, the label fits precisely: to begin with, the Hindutva theory of ‘Aryan’ racial superiority is nearly identical to that of the German Nazis. Hitler’s followers borrowed not only the swastika but also adopted other mythic aspects of Hindu mysticism, such as the alleged Arctic origins of the "Aryan" race propagated by B. G. Tilak and others.”

LIE # 3: “One Western diplomat worried aloud that ‘these people have never heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,’ but, then again, perhaps Westerners have trouble understanding the concept of reincarnation, which figures prominently in the religions of Asia, and especially in the Hindu tradition. You may be incinerated by a nuclear bomb in this life, but don't worry – you'll come back. Perhaps as a citizen of a more civilized country, where the idea of mass death is unthinkable. It's the next best thing to a green card.”

Lies 2 and 3 can be disputed. However, the first lie is a clear case of slander and can be used as grounds for legal action. I leave it to you to decide what you will do with this issue. Jai Hindutva.

Source: www.antiwar.com/justin/j060302.html

- Neeraj


Let's see how cool he tries to look when he recieves the court notice.



LoL!

Edited by: Bishma at: 6/5/02 8:55:51 am
ally of hindus
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(6/5/02 8:56:15 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
Bishma, does the RSS have a branch in the United States that can be a plaintiff in a court case such as this? I would love to see his @#%$ sued but I would hope there would be a place where to sue him and his antiwar.com fools.

If you succeed in getting his little hiney sued, I will be proud to have helped out my Hindu brethren in such a way.

You ought to watch his parent website. www.antiwar.com

It is full of pro-Islamic, pro-China propaganda. Raimondo is not the only anti-Hindutva, anti-Zionist on there. They also have a self hating Israeli Jew named Ran HaCohen and an apologist for Red China named Bevin Chu (If he loves China so much why doesn't he go back? Hmm?).

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 8:59:01 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
Why yes, RSS does have an active branch in the USA.

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 9:09:26 am)
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Re: This little boy deserves to have his butt whipped
His erroneous source is the "All-India Christian Council" (AICC)!! Perhaps we can kill two birds with one stone!

rack kach
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(6/5/02 9:23:42 am)
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what an @#%$
Read the archive stories... every single Israel-related article is made up of European anti-semitism and Palestinian propaganda. I assume the same is true regarding the India articles.

Hehe... he calls Netanyahu an "ultra-rightist." I call him Netanyahu a "lying sack of dirt."

Trishul
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(6/5/02 9:36:56 am)
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Re: what an @#%$
He has quoted Biju Matthews. A person who belongs on the HU Black List as a criminal. B.M, this pig of a person always writes against Hindutva.

Edited by: Bishma at: 6/5/02 9:39:23 am
antiallah
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(6/5/02 9:10:57 pm)
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Let it go people
If you sue him all you're going to do is give his article more attention than it would have recieved otherwise and make yourselves look like the extremist he's accusing you of being. Personally I've never heard of the guy and I doubt his story was viewed by many people.

Besides in america unless it involves an individual don't you have to prove monetary damages in order to get paid on a slander lawsuit? If not then why is it that the republicans and democrats don't sue each other since they lie about each other all the time?

And finally I don't like it when people on the left use this type of tactic and I think coservatives should be above this type of thing especially when some of the allegations are rediculous and can be easily refuted without lawsuits.

Bishma
H.U Lieutenant, Chicago (U.S)
(6/5/02 9:23:35 pm)
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Re: Let it go people
It would give him more attention, but not the good kind. Getting sued would ruin his credibility. However, you have raised some good points. If the guys from the RSS get in touch with me, I'll share your assessment with them.

rack kach
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(6/6/02 6:26:50 am)
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asdf
Hehe... look at all the articles he has on how Israel destroyed the WTC...

After reading Ran Hacohen's "letter from Israel" I understand why Itamar Ben Gavir beat him up two years ago in Tel Aviv.

ally of hindus
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(6/6/02 10:59:38 am)
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Re: asdf
Ran HaCohen got beat up???

Tell me more, Rack Kach. This is GOOD.

rack kach
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(6/7/02 7:01:58 am)
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Ran Hacohen
Ally, have you ever heard of Itamar Ben-Gavir? He is one of the most extremist Kachniks around. When Rabin was Prime Minister he would call his office pretending to be a reporter, get Rabin's plans for the day, and everywhere that Rabin went there would be 50+ people yelling "Rabin is a murderer, Rabin is a Nazi, Rabin is a traitor." In the famous 1995 demonstration in Kikar Zion he led about 100 people to the Prime Minister's official residence, and after overwhelming police they tried to climb over the fence surrounding the house. Before the vote on Oslo II he led a gang that attacked Ben-Eliezer's car when he was in it, on his way to vote in the Knesset. Ben-Gavir broke the Mercedes symbol off his car. Later he sent it to him in the mail with a note, "we did this to your car, we can do this to you too."
Anyway, two years ago Ran Hacohen was going to lecture in Tel Aviv about why Israel should give the Golan back to Syria. There was a right-wing demonstration outside the lecture hall, and when Hacohen showed up Itamar yelled "traitor!" and ran up to him, punched him in the face and kicked him a few times when Hacohen was on the ground before he was arrested.

HindustanFighter99
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(6/7/02 9:30:04 am)
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He's just another Homer simpson brain!
He is just another homer simpson brain like george bush.
Talkin out of his arse sayin that hindu hardliners are neo- nazis when they are allied with Jews, Israel. THATS LOGICAL! Also blue-eyed Brahmin leaders, never in my life have i seen a HIndu with Blue eyes.
THE BJP is so fantical allowing a Christian to be minister of defence:
India made its position clear last year, when George Fernandes, India's defense minister, declared:

"We could take a strike, survive and then hit back. Pakistan would be finished."


Hmm.. This guy is contradicting himself. If he wants to see racism at it fullest he should go across the border tp pakiland and see if minorities even exist there.

ally of hindus
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(6/7/02 10:25:42 am)
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Re: Ran Hacohen
This Itamar ben Gavir sounds like a real roughneck, the kind of Jewish extremist I am particularly wary of. He and his followers could be potentially dangerous.

But Ran HaCohen is no better. Self hating Jew that he is. He deserved what he got, the little putz.

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