Did Israelis Leak New Spy Info to Thwart War?
Over at the American Conservative magazine’s blog, Antiwar.com columnist and former CIA officer Philip Giraldi reports that Israeli sources have indicated to him that the recent leak to the FBI about the new-old Israeli spy case came from inside the Israeli government toward the end of thwarting Ehud Olmert, Dick Cheney and the War Party’s plans to expand the Middle Eastern slaughter to Iran – and that there are more spies to be revealed…
Israeli sources are reporting that the FBI investigation of the Ben-Ami Kadish spy case resulted from a leak coming from inside the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. …
[Yosef] Yagur, who is now retired and living in Israel, was Kadish’s case officer, handling the cases of both him and Jonathan Pollard. Before the anonymous leak of information, the FBI had no idea that Kadish had been a spy for Israel. Now it is investigating a number of US citizens, including an individual who held very senior security positions in the Clinton and Bush White Houses.
How many different people fit the definition, “an individual who held very senior security positions in the Clinton and Bush White Houses”? Can’t be too many… More to the point, why would the Israeli government do such a thing as out their own agents (albeit past ones) to the FBI? According to Giraldi,
The leak of the information at the present time is believed to be linked to proposed closed congressional hearings at the end of this month in which the White House had planned to use several Israeli intelligence officers to provide evidence on the alleged Syrian nuclear program that was bombed on September 6, 2007. It is now unlikely that Israeli intelligence officers will allow themselves to be questioned because they would almost certainly be asked about Israeli spying on the US. Vice President Dick Cheney and Olmert had apparently planned on using the congressional briefings as a launch pad to intensify diplomatic and military pressure against both Syria and Iran. It is believed that the “doves” in the Olmert administration who leaked the information are seeking to make a military confrontation more difficult and are hoping that negotiations, particularly with Syria, will instead take place.
According to the LA Times, these Congressional hearings about the bogus Syria-North Korea Plutonium factory were meant by the neocons at the American Enterprise Institute to be a simple “box-checking exercise,” on the great clipboard of war in the words of AEI vice-warmonger and Ahmad Chalabi champion, Danielle Pletka.
Gareth Porter’s new article explains how the installation of General Petraeus as Royal Viceroy over the Middle East and Central Asia helps smooth the road to war. Perhaps the new and forthcoming spy revelations will help push the scales back the other way.
R. Nelson
April 24th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Perhaps Melancholia might lift her chin up a little bit in the Mideast after all.
Feral
April 24th, 2008 at 1:52 am
aw is done for blocking true comments
Feral
April 24th, 2008 at 1:53 am
First casualty not on aw.
jack
April 24th, 2008 at 2:19 am
You can see the war coming. First they get rid of Admiral Fallon,then they give his job to Petraeus. I wonder how they blackmailed Fallon to get him to go quietly.
Dr. Joji Cherian
April 24th, 2008 at 6:20 am
And you call America a democracy.Some democracy. Going to a war against the will of overwhelming majority of the people.And America, you call it the sole super power. Is it America or Israel, wich is the real superpower? America is only a mercinary for Israel. But mercineries get paid for their servieces. Not Americans.
InchoateDetail
April 24th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Regarding Israel claiming it hasn’t spied since Pollard — what about the Israeli *art students* reported by the DEA, as well as Le Monde and Jane’s Defense, some of whom were shadowing the September 11 hijackers? Most of whom had ordinance and electronic surveillance backgrounds.
What about the Government Accountability Office reporting, sometime in the last five years, that Israel is the *ally* that spies on the U.S. most aggressively?
And the “dancing Israelis” arrested because they were caught celebrating as the WTC collapsed, and eventually deported along with the art students?
What about the Israeli company Comverse setting up the phone system on Capitol Hill? Which, by the way, bought Verint, which was in charge of security on the London underground when the 7/7 bombings occurred — you know, the attacks that Netanyahu “9/11 was a good day for Israel” was warned about before they happened…
What about an Israeli company designing the technology to be used in our new biometric passports?
What about the Starr report of an agent of a foreign government “Mega” in the White House, whom some believe was Rahm Emmanuel?
The list is endless, so I call BS — Israel spies on us still.
James Bovard
April 24th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Thanks for the excellent post, Scott!
Even though the news did blight my resurgent idealism.
Tim R.
April 24th, 2008 at 9:44 am
George you are so right, to quote your figures “90% of both parties are spies for Israel.” And you are right that all of Washington DC is filled with Israeli spies.
By the way, are you related to the late Senator Joe McCarthy by any chance?
Eric
April 24th, 2008 at 10:21 am
I wonder if Giraldi’s other spy could be Marc Grossman. He has essentially been accussed by Sibel Edmonds of being a spy.
Kenneth
April 24th, 2008 at 10:22 am
It’s one hollow accusation after another with you isn’t it, Tim? I’ve never seen you produce a single riposte of substance.
Amry
April 24th, 2008 at 11:00 am
At last! A foreign spy!
I assume you Americans will waterboard him, yes? After all, he might have information which will lead to the capture of more spies! And don’t forget, the information he leaked can threaten national security. Therefore, I am confident….
…. oh wait, I’m sorry, I was just told that tort… I mean, “freedom tickles” is reserved exclusively for those funny-looking brown-skinned guys. Carry on…
p/s: kudos if this story is really true, that there are still those in the Israeli government that thinks killing everything that moves is not a good foreign policy. One of those guys should enlighten Hillary of this fact.
SanFernandoCurt
April 24th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Is anyone, anywhere, at this point, expected to believe anything the Administration claims unless the specific allegation falls from the sky and crushes the family car – or blows up a favorite tapas bar?
The high-stinkum story about the brave Israelis blowing up a Syrian nuclear reactor is so threadbare it wouldn’t restrain a French supermodel’s bustline. There’s a little problem: Nobody noticed any radioactivity registering anywhere near the area after Israel bombed the site last September.
But that hasn’t stopped the White House from trying to build the case for war around a ruined shack in the desert:
From AFP/Yahoo News, we have a U.S. official – evidently hiding his face behind a Nak Won napkin – refuted reports that today’s closed hearings would feature a video showing North Koreans inside the Syrian “reactor.”
The anonymous official told AFP: “There are still photographs of the facility as part of the video, but it’s a video presentation, like a Powerpoint presentation. It’s not a video of the facility.”
The New York Times and The Washington Post, always ready to pass along martial dictation, reported the Syrian reactor “is said to appear to be identical in design to a North Korean reactor at Yongbyon.”
Hope Congress in entertained. Most of the rest us of AREN’T. And not a bit amused, either.
evilpaul
April 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
You should probably listen to Scott’s interview with Chris Floyd from a while back:
http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/03/13/chris-floyd-3/
If they couldn’t kick out Fallon when he got out of line, he wouldn’t have been there in the first place.
optimist
April 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
On topic. Giraldi’s disclosure of Israeli insiders, should it catch wind, is good news for the non-intervention right. Enough tiptoeing around the US/Israel Sparta scenario. Time to “Koupe tet, et Boule Kay” –in the words of Haitian revolutionary figure Boukman: “cut the heads, and burn the house.”
Israeli right-wingers can’t remain a protected class in America forever–spilling trillions of dollars in treasure to create their greater Israel. And, lapping up the political means to wealth while bringing death and destruction back upon both Israel and America.
Oh wait, would breaking the neocon stranglehold be “anti-semitic?” Balderdash.
little guy
April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
lol…thwart war? How could this possibly prevent another false-flag attack from materializing?
It couldn’t/won’t…this is just another “Anti-War” PsyOp.
richard vajs
April 24th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I like the term “leak”. It is can also be used as an euphemism for urinating or pis-ing. If Israeli sources are “leaking” information, it reminds me of an old military aphorism, “Son, you are pissing on my leg and trying to convince me that it is raining”.
Green Party
April 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Anyone else notice the timing of today’s release of ‘new’ information on that Syrian/Korean ‘nuclear’ site? They already tried this once and it fell flat, so why not try it again with fancy new graphics, new talking heads and new ‘evidence’ – just in time to deflect everyone’s attention from Israeli spying.
simon
April 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
How stupid!
simon
April 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Tim R.
“George you are so right, to quote your figures “90% of both parties are spies for Israel.” And you are right that all of Washington DC is filled with Israeli spies.
By the way, are you related to the late Senator Joe McCarthy by any chance?”
Tim R., this is stupid!
the legendary Bill
April 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Yes, the dancing Israelis worked for a Mossad front moving co..The employees of Odigo, an Israeli software co. didn’t go to work that day at the WTC-they got warned by text msg not to be anywhere near the WTC 2 hrs before the spectacle..the Reichstag Fire of the Bush Admin..Zim Israel, an Israeli shipping co., moved out just before the disaster…Larry Silverstein made out very well, they sure took care of that asbestos problem…
It’s not the people who want to treat Israel LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTRY that need to apologize, it’s the people who think Israel is more important than Manhattan, Washington, D.C. and actually the entire eastern seaboard-those are the people who have some explaining to do…
simon
April 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I’m not surprised that Israel IS still spying on the USA. They’re back-stabbers. They bite the hand that feeds them. How typical of Israel. Remember the USS Liberty?
JooRip
April 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Iran ought to give up their war. That is the problem. For 25 years they have been after the US
JooRip
April 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
ISRAELI ART STUDENT STORY DEBUNKED
GET OVER IT.
http://www.911myths.com/html/israeli_art_student_spies.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html
simon
April 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Joo Ripstein?
“Iran ought to give up their war. That is the problem. For 25 years they have been after the US”
What the hell are you talking about? What kind of crap did you smoked?
Eric
April 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Oh no, we couldn’t possibly. He’s a Special, Chosen person, a scion of God’s own Master Race. We only waterboard ordinary, inferior people — like Arabs, or Muslims, or American goyem. If we have any difficulty deciding whom to torture, we just ask Israel to decide for us.
R. Nelson
April 24th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Why? It’s encouraging to know that there are Israeli officials willing to scuttle their and our governments’ plans for widening the war in the Mideast.
Feral
April 25th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Oh cmon now. Israel named a street after Pollard. All they ever want is war from us. What a joke of a story. Mossad knew 911 was going to happen and welcomed it obviously
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April 25th, 2008 at 7:20 am
[...] Re: So Iran Won’t Get A Christmas Card from Bin Laden & the Boyz! Seems the current Israeli spy scandel may have a very interesting wrinkle to it. According to Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer and regular at American Conservative Magazine, the recent revelation of the latest Israeli spy is an intended outting who’s purpose maybe to skuttle Israeli/US efforts against Iran. And in fact, the assertion by Israel of no spying since 1985′ http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23590677-5005961,00.html may not be true and that more spying since 1985′ will be outted as well. This could get real interesting to say the least. The skinny on the story from Scott Horton at Antiwar.com which covers and links the original story from American Conservative Magazine. Thank’s to Scott, Philip Giraldi and especially the man behind AmerCon Magazine, Pat Buchannan. Thanks Pat! http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/24/did-the-israelis-leak-new-spy-info-to-thwart-war/ [...]
stevieb
April 25th, 2008 at 8:02 am
The neocons were right – only it’s more like 1933 instead of ‘39 and the most powerful nation in the world has just found that the zionists have declared war on America….
stevieb
April 25th, 2008 at 9:17 am
You’re so-called ‘debunking’ didn’t even raise some doubt, Joo-rip.
I can’t even give you an A for effort, even….
lear k
April 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Tere were just “middle eastren looking”guys!
lear k
April 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
It should read They were” just middle eastren looking”!? guys.
lear k
April 25th, 2008 at 11:34 am
THE THIRD TEMPLE’S HOLY OF HOLIES:
ISRAEL’S NUCLEAR WEAPONS
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm
Britain’s dirty secret
http://www.newstatesman.com/200603130011
Corkey
April 25th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Comment by Tim R.
2008-04-24 09:44:32
George you are so right, to quote your figures “90% of both parties are spies for Israel.” And you are right that all of Washington DC is filled with Israeli spies.
HEY TIM, THATS THE ONLY INTELLIGENT POST YOU EVER DID. CONGRATS!!
the legendary Bill
April 25th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
You have to wonder why the Israel-First crowd feels insecure enough to even visit a website like this..Do they doubt the words of Ariel Sharon, “don’t worry about the Americans we own the U.S. Congress.” He said it, not me…The neo-con types are getting everything they want..so why do they visit a website like this where no one is going to buy their b.s. anyway? I guess it’s because deep down they are insecure..false patriots who are really loyal to a foreign power tend to be that way..
the legendary Bill
April 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
And by the way, if the Admin. is going to keep falsely accusing the Iranians of arming “extremists” ( people opposed to foreign occupation ) then eventually why shouldn’t they start?.How do I know they haven’t? Well, if they did the insurgents would have surface-to-air missiles ( that could take out our helicopter gun-ships ) and armor piercing RPG’s ( then they wouldn’t be limited to roadside IEDs )..But we haven’t seen those things-yet..
jack
April 25th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I would like to correct the Sharon quote, in an argument with Shimon Peres. “Don’t tell me to worry about the Americans, we own America and what’s more the American’s Know it.”
the legendary Bill
April 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Yes, I believe that was it…Thanks
the legendary Bill
April 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Quite right Jack, Thanks
the bard
April 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
It should be obvious to everyone that Henry Kissinger is the head Papa spy of the Mossad in America.He is also know as Mega.
richard vajs
April 26th, 2008 at 6:04 am
I just don’t understand this Kadish spying affair. This guy worked at the Picatinny arsenal, where they develop weapons. Why should Israel bother learning how to copy the manufacture of new weapons when the US is so eager to just give Israel whatever they want, as soon as it rolls off the assembly line. Like, during the height of Israel’s rape of Lebanon, the US used non-stop air transport to resupply them with all the cluster bombs Israel wanted; enough to blanket southern Lebanon. Better yet, in Iraq and soon Iran and Syria, the US will willingly undertake the slaughter of the Arabs for the Israelis, gratis. These actions make spying for nickel-dime blueprints so unnecessary. I mean, if you own the whole candy store, do you have to sneak a handful of M&Ms? Maybe Israel just needs to practice devious spying so as not to lose those skills.
lear k
April 26th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Israel fears that one day all Americans might become fed up with underwriting and paying for Israel wars and wellbeing and stop all that at once.But When that day comes,Americans might find themselves held at nuclear gun point by Israel?!!
Scott F.
April 26th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Vote on whether you believe the Bush administration:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/04/iran-you-vote.html
richard vajs
April 26th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Sorry to just lump Iranians into the category of “arabs”. Ditto Turks and Kurds. Sloppy of me, but I am sure that you folks know that they are not Arabs. But I am also sure that our esteemed Commander-in-Chief has no clue, nor do our friends at FOX News nor the boys down at the Legion Hall in Hoofprint, Texas. “Yee-Haw, git dem ragheads!”
simon
April 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
“I just don’t understand this Kadish spying affair. This guy worked at the Picatinny arsenal, where they develop weapons. Why should Israel bother learning how to copy the manufacture of new weapons when the US is so eager to just give Israel whatever they want, as soon as it rolls off the assembly line. Like, during the height of Israel’s rape of Lebanon, the US used non-stop air transport to resupply them with all the cluster bombs Israel wanted; enough to blanket southern Lebanon. Better yet, in Iraq and soon Iran and Syria, the US will willingly undertake the slaughter of the Arabs for the Israelis, gratis. These actions make spying for nickel-dime blueprints so unnecessary. I mean, if you own the whole candy store, do you have to sneak a handful of M&Ms? Maybe Israel just needs to practice devious spying so as not to lose those skills.”
richard vajs: it’s all about the F15’s sold to Saudia Arabia. Israel wants to know about them in case they go to war with them in the future.
Andy
April 26th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Why does the U.S. give Israel billions of dollars every year in foreign aid? Why? The U.S. gains absolutely nothing from its relationship with the Jewish state and incurs the needless wrath of the Arab world.
simon
April 26th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
“Why does the U.S. give Israel billions of dollars every year in foreign aid? Why? The U.S. gains absolutely nothing from its relationship with the Jewish state and incurs the needless wrath of the Arab world.”
Because there is a loose monster in DC: it’s called The Lobby.
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Ali
April 27th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Why don’t you all go and read the Balfour Declaration. It is only a few lines, so maybe I’ll just kill you with kindness and reproduce it here for you added pleasure:
———————————-
Foreign Office,
November 2nd, 1917.
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country”.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour
———————————————-
The story about the Jewish spies leaking this tale to American spies is just nonsense. However, maybe for once, the “political status of Jews” in Israel has worked both ways, this time to the benefit of another Jewish country; namely America. Only wishful thinking, anyway.
Cheers!
Feral
April 27th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Arm yourselves for a revolution please.
richard vajs
April 27th, 2008 at 5:00 am
Saudi Arabia as a threat to Israel? Please tell me how that can be. Saudi Arabia is a total monarchy run by ultra conservative people. The last thing those people want is any conflict that threatens to stir their people up and get them to call for more democracy. Also, Saudis are probably the world’s lousiest soldiers (Lawrence of Arabia, not withstanding). In the 1967 War, they were pitiful. Why should Saudi Arabia attack nuclear armed Israel? The Saudis government buys its influence, it doesn’t need a military. The US has a very cozy arrangement with the Saudi monarchy and doesn’t want anything to change either. The only reason they buy F15s is because like an indulgent old relative, they feel obligated to buy SOMETHING from the US in exchange for all the oil that they sell for dollars. And military arms are about all we have to sell the world except for wheat and porn. And we are safe in assuming that we can sell them F15s without them ever using them. Hell, we could probably sell them nukes without Israel breaking a sweat. Anyway, the IDF has thousands of jet aircraft, the Saudi Air Force is probably in the hundreds of aircraft. And I would bet that maintence of the Saudi AF is in American contractor hands, which could shut the whole shebang down overnight.
Simon, are all Israel defenders so paranoid that they believe anything that justifies Israel’s outrageous behavior?
the legendary Bill
April 27th, 2008 at 5:08 am
Our only hope is that the Generals who know and resent how this wicked admin gave the go-ahead for 9-11 ( as called for in the PNAC ) will organize a coup and install Patrick J. Buchanan as President for life…Sen. Doles’s senior advisor spoke of these Generals and military people years ago..They know the truth about the Reichstag fire of the 21st century…But do they have enough guts? My USMC surely does..Of course the Bush Admin has our Recon and Force recon all tied-up with their imperialistic wars and the Generals are afraid of losing their dollar depreciating pensions…So I guess we’re stuck..In the words of John mcCain, ” there will be more wars..”
richard vajs
April 27th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Simon,
Your comment that Israel spies on the USA because we sold F-15 fighter planes to Saudi Arabia and that Israel needs to gather info on the F-15 in case of a war between Israel and Saudi Arabia still confuses me. According to Wikipedia, the Isaraeli Air Force consists of thousands of advanced aircraft including 50 ea F-15s and 24 F-15Es. If they need to know all about the F15s why don’t they just open their tech manuals. Also Israel has over 200 Lockheed F16s (also courtesy of Uncle Sucker) and 64 Apache Attack Helicopters. The Saudi Air Force has a total of about 250 aircraft including 3 squadrons (about 50 planes) of F15Cs. I am royally sick of Israeli “poor mouthing” about their vulnerability to the Arabs. Total crock of merde.
the legendary Bill
April 27th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Calling Gen. Zinni…America needs an American Caesar..
John Thomas
October 28th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Can you name a country with better democracy than the US. Do not say at the end that either Kingdoms are a better alternate to democracy or the communists.