Leading neocon Daniel Pipes (director of the Middle East Forum) said in an interview posted Wednesday at National Review Online, that if Barack Obama is elected, George Bush would attack Iran in the remaining ten weeks of his term.
“Should the Democratic nominee win in November, President Bush will ‘do something.’ and should it be Mr. McCain who wins, he’ll ‘punt,’ and let Mr. McCain decide what to do.
He called on powers such as Russia and China to prevent a US unilateral strike by helping Washington increase pressure on Tehran. “Look, if you don’t want an American attack, then you have to join us in being very serious with the Iranians and making clear to them we will attack if they don’t stop.”
Later in the interview, Pipes commented that Israel’s nuclear capability is “substantial.”
When we attack Iran the war against zionism here will commence.
I hate to sound flippant, but bring it on!
Geoge W. Bush has always maintained that all great presidents had a war. He will go down in history as one of our greatest because not only did he start the present fiasco in Iraq but in his next effort he will achieve far more greatness when he attacks Iran. The only way to deal with this is to buy bicycle stock because that will be the future when this happens.
Political suicide for a US presidential candidate in 2008 would be to declare:
– “I’m an atheist. Religion is a comforting myth for those too weak-minded to handle mortality. Ask yourselves which is more likely. When we die some go to Heaven but most go to Hell. Or, when you draw your last breath it’s Game Over.”
– “Wake up fellow Americans. Our enemy is Israel. Bleeding us dry while stabbing us in the back.”
Unacceptable today, but sometimes the obvious is the hardest to say.
I know this is anti-war.com, but I’d just like to say that once we overthrow the current government, I would be in full support of bombing Israel. I mean we have to get rid of all these unneccessary weapons somehow, we might as well do something productive with them.
If we bombed Israel we would be reduced to Israel’s level of killing innocents, like the people in Gaza, and in our proxy war for Israel in Iraq.
We should cut off all aid to Israel, and try every single member of the U.S government for treason who supported Israel’s interests above our own (which would be almost all of them)
Again, the national call-in day to Congress to stop an attack on Iran is June 10 — CALL CONGRESS!!!
The toll-free number to your three representatives in Congress, one in the House, two in the Senate — just ask for their offices, is:
800 788 9372
CALL CONGRESS ON JUNE 10 (HELL -CALL THEM EVERYDAY) AND DEMAND NO ATTACK ON IRAN!!!!!!!!!!
ALSO DEMAND THAT THE ISRAEL LOBBY BE THROWN OUT OF ANY DECISION IN U.S. FOREIGN POLICY!!!!!
JUST SAY NO TO THE ISRAEL LOBBY. Before an attack on Iran kills your drafted kids or starves them to death when oil reaches over $200 a barrel.
Thanks, justasking.
I agree that bombing Israel is off the table even as a fantasy. Let’s just for a moment set aside the fact that bombing Israel is morally out of the question.
Assuming that one is proposing as fantasy to bomb Israel for the sheer satisfaction of it (being temporarily insane with anger at the Holy State): this doesn’t even work as a fantasy for me.
My fantasy world is not one in which some new epic tragedy befalls the Chosen Nation, making them once again the Focus of All Human Attention in a Heartbreaking New Biblical Spectacular That Will Astonish the World.
No: my fantasy is much, much sweeter than this tawdry spectacle of pornographic violence you (presumably unseriously) entertain: my fantasy is much more rarefied, idealistic, romantically, heartbreakingly impossible: we simply stop supporting, caring, talking, or thinking much at all for good or ill about Israel. We as a nation cease to concern ourselves with Israel to any greater extent than we concern ourselves with any country of similar size.
Don’t fantasize about more stupid Holy Land massacres and drama and all the rest of that crap we’re all so sick of! Dare to dream bigger that that!
You guys are unreal: Don’t you know that the 9/11 gang has ALREADY tried to attack Iran at least twice – (by “air accident”). Why do you think the Air Force top hawks have been FIRED? Go to: “WhatDoesItMean.com” to get the score from Asiatic Intelligence. WAKE UP – you and Z-Net are starting to read like corporate outputs!
If the CIA and the Pentagon told the White House an attack on Iran “would spiral out of control and engulf the Middle East”….
and the resignation of Admiral Fallon paves the way for a “surgical strike” vs Iran
and the two Air Force higher ups are fired (the B52 nuke fiasco)
it all comes down to:
The 11,000 Iranian missiles vs our AGEIS cruisers.
Help us, Obama-Won Kenobe, bring Camelot back…..
I know that many on on here will not believe me and will just call me a liar and a zionist but then again, maybe some of you are fair minded and so I will give it a try:
I think that allowing radical Muslim nations obtain nuclear weapons is a clear and present danger to the United States, REGARDLESS of Israel. Even if Israel would cease to exist tomorrow, I would not want the Iranians to get nuclear weapons. I was in lower manhattan getting off the subway on 9/11 and I saw, first hand, what 19 muslim fanatics can do with a bunch of box cutters. I shudder to think what such fanatics could do if they were allowed to obtain nuclear material.
It’s not WHAT they can do but WHY they did it. Perhaps it would not have happened if the United States had a different foreign policy? Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for a number of years now. Its a muslim country. No catastrophe has resulted to America because of this. The fact is Iran is not producing nuclear weapons, the neoconservatives are just looking for an excuse to pick a fight.
Your argument begins and ends with hypotheticals. At no point do you prove that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons program (for which there is no evidence) or that it is ruled by fanatics- you merely treat these as givens and proceed according to the worst scenario you can conceive. Iran’s potentate, Ayatollah Khamenei, allows stem cell research, not normally the kind of behaviour one anticipates from religious obscurantists, and even issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons. The latter is a very serious ukase- if Iran were engaging in the production of nukes, it could only do so with the Ayatollah’s appeal, and any such revelation would effectively destroy his credibility as a religious authority. So your entire argument is off base and hasn’t the slightest shred of relevance. Even granting your conjecture, it is nothing that the arsenal the United States already possesses could not remedy in the event of a nuclear strike.
It is a pleasure to run into "ukase" by someone who knows how to use it. Edictum originally under the Czar, now a decretum Presidentiale in the RF?
Like Hiroshima and Nagasaki!
Your neocon buddies would bring forth the champagne bottles, because this would mean permanent war.
But really, you know that there is no evidence, none at all of a nuclear weapons program.
Sold another war..not as a defence, not even in the form of an offense but instead pure imperialism. How’d Operation Ajax end?
Tim R:
If 19 Muslim fanatics were responsible for 9/11, why is it that no Arabic names appeared on the “hijacked” planes’ passenger lists? Instead of trumpeting his success at bloodying the Great Satan, why did Bin Laden deny any involvement in 9/11? To date the only “evidence” of his involvement is an easily discredited “confession” video conveniently “discovered” in a house raid in Afghanistan.
Having once been on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list, Bin Laden has now been demoted to merely one of the FBI’s most wanted terrorists. His FBI resume makes NO mention of any involvement with the events of 9/11. This is akin to a biography of Babe Ruth failing to mention his home run records! However, this is not the result of a bureaucratic muddle. An FBI spokesman has officially stated that there is insufficient evidence to indict Bin Laden for 9/11. I once heard of a federal prosecutor who boasted that, if he chose to do so, he could find a reason to indict a ham and cheese sandwich. Perhaps so. But from the looks of things, a ham and cheese sandwich is more guilty of 9/11 than is Bin Laden.
The only source claiming that Bin Laden and 19 Muslim fanatics were responsible for 9/11 are the folks who lied us into two ongoing losing wars and are working feverishly to lie us into yet another war.
Who really are the fanatics here!?
Clearly, those who allow dogma to supercede pragma in policymaking, ie, the neocons.
I can’t wait for Israel to attack Iran then we have a reason to obliterate Israel. Bye bye.
Israel is the aggressor. They have a long history of agitating nations into war and only Israel benifits. The Mossad motto is, “By Deception, Thou Shalt Make War” and through the years, they certainly have proven this to be a fact.
If the U.S. attacks Iran it will be a terrible blunder.
1) The price of oil will increase dramatically.
2) The U.S. will be even more isolated in the world.
3) No one will support the U.S. aggression. The U.S. will be branded a bully.
4) Iranians will universally rally to their government as Americans rallied to a certain pet-goat reader after 9/11.
5) Iranians will move in their thousands into Iraq to aid the insurgency.
6) Muslim opinion will be even more inflamed with America.
7) Much much more, all bad. I can’t think of a crazier thing to do.
Just thinkin’ false flag attacks on amerikan mainland, mossad attack on us ship in Persian gulf (blamed on Iran), War with Iran, declaration of martial law, suspension of constitution, cancellation of elections, opening of amerika’s very own concentration camps, citizens rounded up by ssshhh – the marines. BINGO – you get to keep the bush/cheney/clinton crime syndicate with Halliburton enforcers and the marines (till they wake up) and the neocons get the total destruction of america as planned. Brilliant, a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
HULLO AMERICA!!! IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE???
Well I for one did not "vote" for any of these idiots, regardless of party. I have no control over lunatics at the levers of power using said powers and the purse, at my expense, to kill and maim at their say so. There again without having confered or asking me anything.
So how am I to blame for the course of action that mad-men take in MY name? I'm not! And so goes for everyone else. That's like saying because your neighbor goes off his nut and shoots and kills the guy across the street you're to blame for not "seeing it coming".
To blame the powerless bystander for the crimes of another is lunacy in itself!
“I believe President Bush is going to order air strikes (on Iran) before he leaves officeâ€
-Norman Podhoretz (Lyons, 2007).
Obama would get a dispensation if a nude negro policy ever goes into effect because he is one of the so called elites.
Doomed I say, the world will end, um probably not….
It would be nice if all these neocons promoting war could be arrested and held until Obama is the president at least. War criminals must be prosecuted and punished.
What’s most disturbing is how Obama is above reproach. It’s become almost blasphemy to criticize him in anyway. Kudos to John Stewart for pointing this out in his comedy routine, but he’ll probably catch flack for that, just like the rest of us. It’s as if Obama has been packaged and sold to us as some kind of diety, when he’s nothing more than a junior senator, with a thin resume, who voted present a hundred times at his job.
HOW QUICKLY PEOPLE FORGET…….WE OWE IRAN A HUGE PAYBACK , HOW ABOUT THAT 1979-80 HOSTAGE ORDEAL IN TEHRAN? YEAH , THE DEMOCRATS “JIMMY CARTER” DID A FINE JOB DID,NT HE? LOL. BUSH IS OLD ENOUGH TO BE A PART OF AMERICA WHICH REFUSES TO FORGIVE IRAN FOR THAT DARK CHAPTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY , JUST AS I AM OLD ENOUGH TO BE A PART OF AMERICA WHICH REFUSES TO FORGIVE SAUDI A-RABIA FOR 9-11-01 , AND I SAY SAUDI A-RABIA DUE TO THE FACT THAT 15 OF THE 19 HI-JACKERS CAME FROM SAUDI ARABIA , THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIEND……………..AND AS FAR AS ISREAL , FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS THE JEWS HAVE BEEN DRAGGED IN THE MUD , WELL , ITS PAYBACK TIME……………GO SICK EM ISREAL YEAH-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. BY THE WAY IM NOT VOTING FOR MCCAIN , OR OBAMA NOPE , MY PICK “STARSCREAM-08” ON BEHALF OF THE DECEPTICON PARTY………..WHY NOT HE COULD PROABLY DO A BETTER JOB THAN MCCAIN OR OBAMA ANYWAY.
This site is great! There are a lot of Pelosi-like drama queens who are off their medication.
“God will judge and punish Bush and Cheney” LOL you retard. Bush and Cheney will fade off, move their money where Obama-lama-ding-dong won’t be able to tax it, and they will enjoy life. Meanwhile, goobers like you will spend the rest of your life crying about one thing after another.
Keep an eye on how the next socialist program builds a “feel-good” bubble if you want to get excited about something real.
Could an Obama win = war with Iran? I don’t know. I believe the US government don’t dare attack Iran. McCain’s aggressive stance toward Iran(for example:”bomb,bomb,bomb,Iran”) is a bluff to scare the Iranians and keep them at bay.He is percieved as a hotheaded, unstable old man hellbent for glory with nothing to lose and if he were to die then there would be someone in his place far more unstable and to be feared- Palin. Obama has been selected by the powers that be, to calm down the muslim fury in the middle east.Example: The ongoing misperception that Obama could be a Muslim. His middle name especially. In the Middle East many believe it could be so or at least believe he has sympathies with the Muslims because he had some Islamic upbringing as a child. The people in the middle east will think that Obama is a secret muslim or could easily become muslim and bring the USA to Islam so they will back off in hopes that it happens. At least it makes the general population of the USA look good to middle easterners because so many of us favor Obama.
I think the administration just looking for some enemy. Iraq,now Iran.
The song FMJ you know very well already changed:
Kiss me, good-buy ‘n wait when I’ll be back
Good-buy my sweetheart Hello Iraq
America has heard the bugle call
And you know it involves us, one an all
I don’t suppose that war will ever end
There’s fighting that will break us up again.
Good- bye, my darling, Hello Iraq
Bagdad to take, n’ Saddam to be fucked
Kiss me, good-buy ‘n wait when I’ll be back
Good-buy my sweetheart Hello Iraq.
A ship is waiting for us at the dock
America has trouble to be stopped
We must stop terrorism in that land
Or freedom will start sliping thru our hands.
Shall we change to Iran again?
American guys’re falling down in Iraq… Not enough?
So many financial troubles! They must put the money to save the economy
but not for next war.
Time to think about feature has come.
i wonder if it was at all possible for the election this year to be rigged that obama would win in order or a strike on iran to be expedited knowing their capabilities for nukes are ever closer? is it possible mccain took one for the team?