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Leading neocon Daniel Pipes (director of the Middle East Forum) said in an interview posted Wednesday at National Review Online, that if Barack Obama is elected, George Bush would attack Iran in the remaining ten weeks of his term.
“Should the Democratic nominee win in November, President Bush will ‘do something.’ and should it be Mr. McCain who wins, he’ll ‘punt,’ and let Mr. McCain decide what to do.
He called on powers such as Russia and China to prevent a US unilateral strike by helping Washington increase pressure on Tehran. “Look, if you don’t want an American attack, then you have to join us in being very serious with the Iranians and making clear to them we will attack if they don’t stop.”
Later in the interview, Pipes commented that Israel’s nuclear capability is “substantial.”
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Where did you see the picture of the two of them??????
Wow, typical neocon jujitsu: if we attack Iran, it will be Russia and China’s fault, for failing to stop us!
Well said Eric. The neocons are never responsible, its never their fault. Their pathology is unreal.
The Neo-Cons pathology is pathological and I’m not being a wise ass.It’s amazing seeing what is happening as they numb America’s youth with “American Idol” and “hip-hop” and such a small number of people understand what a true Fifth Column this collective slime is….
Fortunes change,people are awakening and when the truth about this Spasmodian Fungi Kollective known as the “Neo-Cons” is revealed,there may be some more…… apathy.Apathy or Anarchism in all its distorted forms.
God forbid “McCudge” gets elected….Gods,God,Goddess,KARMA help us !
I feel as a 44 year old NY’er,we have lost the country to them and just plain apathy is the rule as is America’s inward looking attitude on the domestic side.How could America’s polititians have sold out the country to these seemingly beneficial but utterly self serving parasites !! AT OUR EXPENSE !!! ISRAEL IS THE ENEMY !!!!!!!!!!!
The scariest day will be January 21,2009…..
Americans are to blame for their own follies and vices.
Lester Ness
Well I for one did not “vote” for any of these idiots, regardless of party. I have no control over lunatics at the levers of power using said powers and the purse, at my expense, to kill and maim at their say so. There again without having confered or asking me anything.
So how am I to blame for the course of action that mad-men take in MY name? I’m not! And so goes for everyone else. That’s like saying because your neighbor goes off his nut and shoots and kills the guy across the street you’re to blame for not “seeing it coming”.
To blame the powerless bystander for the crimes of another is lunacy in itself!
If you get the clap, it’s not the fault of some guy in Tel Aviv or Bejing.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
Who brought American Idol? 99% of Hollywood and the entertainment business in America are liberal. Ignorance is exactly how Obama got to where he is.
Who is at fault for the current economic crisis? Liberals are. Democrats are and some “Republicans”. I hope McCain wins and all of the people who refused to listen to Bush’s people when they said, 6 years ago, this was going to happen - end up in prison where they belong.
“ISRAEL IS THE ENEMY !!!!!!!!!!!” Nice one Hitler. I shouldn’t be surprised; Hitler was a socialist, too.
“it will be Russia and China’s fault, for failing to stop us” and Iran for not playing nice!
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Hey, wait a minute. The Constitution doesn’t give Bush the authority to attack Iran on his own! Whew! For a minute you guys had me worried. Thank God for checks and balances.
Thanks for the sad chuckle…. I guess that’s the only kind left.
Thank you indeed for the willingness of Congress to- oh wait never mind.
Would those checks and balances be the AIPAC CHECKS that fill up the Congresscritters bank ACCOUNTS by any chance? Are those the checks and balances that Americans rely on? because there isn’t any other game in town at the moment!
Obama should issue a statement saying that if Iran is attacked, he will order his Justice Department to investigate.
You are completely wrong that Bush needs Congressional approval to attack Iran.
The Kyle/Lieberman Bill, passed last September with the overwhelming support of Senate Democrats…
http://tinyurl.com/2cvby8
…designates the Iranian military as a “terrorist group”. The President can attack “terrorist groups” at will, without seeking Congressional approval.
When will you people wake up and see that the 2 parties work in collusion with each other? There is no substantive difference between them.
Pipes has an interesting backstory: Bush the Second nominated to the “Institute of Peace” — some few brave Senators blocked it, so Dumbya recessed appointed Pipes and he was a Bush *peacenik* from August 2003- January 2005
Pipes’ buddy, Fleming Rose, a Zionist too, then went on to, IMO, deliberately create the Dutch Mohammad cartoon controversy. You remember that one - the cartoons of Islam’s prophet Mohammad that basically set on fire what little part of the Islamic world that wasn’t already enraged by the U.S. attack on Iraq and the continuing genocide of the Palestinians by U.S. funded Israel.
Haim Saban’s, and other pro-Israel owned media in Europe, then picked up the cartoons, republishing them over and over with glee, and further enraging the Muslim world.
Great work Pipes! You sure are an emissary for peace, just like your sponsor, George W. What’s-His-Last-Name-Again?
There is tremendous irony in all of this…but given Obama’s cave-in to Aipac/ the Israel Lobby, the world is going to end soon.
If Russia and China want to prevent war they should nuke DC.
And Israel and Hollywood and all Fox/ CNN/ MSNBC/ NBC/ ABC/ CBS “news” buildings.
Although the nuking of all of these would kill some innocent people — secretaries, by-standers, Palestinians…
…and let’s not forget Miami/Ft.Lauderdale and the Hamptons
I thought this was a liberal blog but now I see you people are racists.
People on here saying that Conservatives start every war (lie) and that they are murderous hate mongers and then turn around and talk about the murder of innocents.
Liberals aren’t for peace unless it is in a world that benefits them. Hate everyone who isn’t like you.
Shhhh, SW. You might give those two ideas.
Probably all they need do is wait for Usians to turn on themselves.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
That would not happen, since from the very onset of the Cold Ware during the late 40s US nuclear forces were designed for the first, aggressive strike against USSR/Russia, whereas Russia was always on the defense.
Over the years systems were perfected this way - therefore US has ONLY the real capability to do the first strike, whereas Russia has very good capability to do a counterstrike.
The irony is that after one after another theoretical and modeling analysis performed in the US by numerous modeling efforts - the truth was revealed - apparent to every marginally moral person, which are quite rare in the US Govt. so it seems - so the Truth of the Nuclear War is:
THE SIDE THAT DOES THE FIRST STRIKE LOSES THE WAR
Well, until such time that SDI, anti-missile system would be implemented - so that the US can do the first strike, and then avoid the counter-strike.
Now - please understand all - that facing the creation of the fully operational and reliable US SD system - Russia (and China) simply HAVE to start the conventional war to prevent that SD system from being developed. The first choice of course is some peaceful kind of “war” - for instance strangling US economically.
Now, if only US were not so aggressive… but that’s impossible - that’s the design of the country.
The only way out is the election of Obama - “US Gorbachev”, that would dismantle the Empire, people would hate him for that, people in the US would have to consume less (but would not that be actually great in terms of fighting the obesity problems face by most americans?) - but it would be a better World - in 20 years. In 10 years it would be better world for every place on the Planet - except to the US unfortunately.
If McCain wins…. That would Chinese option (like USSR/Russia option vs. Maoist China / Modern China option). There is one big BUT though - Americans are not Chinese - or… are they? Only more migration from China to US can save the World from the Big War. Well - for once it’s China’s turn to safe the World I guess :-)
Fascinating perspective. Thank you for taking the time to share it. I do hope that the coming war(s) are the peaceful kind you suggest. Pray that we do not test the doctrine of “assured mutual destruction”.
The “supporters” of Israel obviously prefer to see the entire world destroyed rather than allow Iran to enrich uranium, even though the NPT (which Israel disdains to sign and the US is violating) says all signatories have the “inalienable right” to enrich uranium, and all nuclear-capable signatories have the *obligation* to help non-nuclear countries acquire nuclear technology for peaceful use if they want it, including the capacity to enrich uranium.
Israel is the worst thing that ever happened to the United States of America. What a strange way for our country to meet its demise.
Your right Eric. Once Israel was created and the USA decided to give it a Kaiser-like ‘blank cheque’ America was assured the animosity of the entire Arab world. I don’t see one single advantage for America in its relationship with the Jewish state.
Pipes is one of the worst neocons on the face of the earth. I don’t know what lunatic Bush and Cheney are going to do. But if the bomb Iran hey should be hung for war crimes. Bush is great at signing death warrents, maybe attacking Iran will be his own.
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If Bush is so crazy as to implement an undeclared war in November after Obama wins the 2008 election, then Canada will be the first country to indict the bugger for “Crimes against Humanity” in the World Court. Iran has every right (under the UN NPT) to develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes and if Israel and the USA would permit the IAEA to do its job, they could validate true intensions. If Israel maintains that people who disagree with their current occupation of Palestinian lands and “imprisonment of its people” can never benefit from modern science, then it is clear that Israel is the problem, not Iran.
If Bush was crazy enough to attack Iran after Obama “won” next november, then the UK will be the number one country defending his lunatic actions. Brown is such a traitorous, treasonous nutcase himself, he is a fully paid up member of the same insane elite clubs that are trying to “off” several billion “useless eaters.” Do not look to “poor little defenceless” Israel to even show the slightest amount of gratitude. They look down on all non Jews as being less than vermin.
I would love to see Bush, Cheney, Rice, Blair and Brown in the dock in the Hague and see justice performed on them and all their genetic decendents.
Until that happy day, I am visualising a happy future where there is NO Fear, Infinate consciousness allows us all to evolve to a higher level and hatred is something we no longer feel, but will never forget.
I would like to see the return of McCarthyism.
Oh great, so now the US threatens Russia and China: if you don’t do what we want, we’ll start another was. Ducky.
Above: was = war.
When are Americans going to start understanding that Israel is RUINING us economically?
Just threatening Iran with war (which is TOTALLY driven by the Israel lobby) is already bankrupting us. Look at the headline from ABC (which of course buries, far below the lede, the explicit connection between US-Israel war threats and the oil price surge - it wouldn’t be ‘good for Israel’ to highlight that!):
“Oil Skyrockets in Biggest One-Day Gain Ever, Almost $11″
[oh yeah, and this just HAPPENS to happen on the day just as Barak Obama joins the amen chorus of AIPAC acolytes screeaming thyat we have to "do something" about the phony "Iranian threat", on the day when an Israeli cabinet minister outright promises that this war will happen]
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/wireStory?id=5010997
“Oil Skyrockets in Biggest One-Day Gain Ever, Almost $11″ I guess its time for conservatives to learn how to conserve!
Lester Ness
Americans are to blame for their own problems. “He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.” — Jesus (Bush’s favorite philosopher)
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
I am relying on China, Russia and India to keep civilization going after the Iranian debacle and American collapse, but I’m afraid Cheney may try to take the rest of the world with him when he goes, thinking he’ll restore the glory days of American post-World War II sole-supplier prosperity. He doesn’t realize that shop has already been sold.
pipes was on NPR about a week ago. it was hlarious. he was trying to have some islamic school shutdown and a random caller completely owned him. he goes “what kind of show is this, why would you let her talk to me like that”?
Hey Lester.
Here is a link to that interview:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90477620
The link to the audio is near the top of that page. This is not the first time he melted down like this. He always does this when confronted with anyone who poses a viewpoint contrary to his. He is the weakest “debater” I have ever seen and I don’t know why this guy has the national prominence that he does.
Thanks for the link. The lady calls in and expresses a contrary opinion to him and he says the radio station is not a “responsible” station! Unbelievable!
Wow. These neocons simply have no concept whatsoever of the first amendment.
You mean like the fairness doctrine?
Liberals are so easy to own; all you have to do is actually read something from a reputable source and not just regurgitate propaganda.
I could stay on here all day and point out hypocrisy, like your comment.
I believe Pipes’ father was quite influential. Another case of the original, and largest, affirmative action program ever instituted — “legacy” entitlement.
I know; working hard to build wealth for your family is so wrong. Why should anyone’s children reap the benefits of their forefathers? I mean, we all work so our money can just be taken from us and given to whomever the government chooses. What a country! What an ideal!
“I don’t know why this guy has the national prominence that he does.” Because a lot of other half-wits share his prejudices. Most born-agains are viciously anti-Muslim, for example.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
June 10th is the National Call-in day to demand that your congressional reps support diplomacy and not an attack on Iran.
Toll-free number to call Congress is:
(800) 788-9372
More information on the National Call-in Day to stop an attack on Iran is here:
http://newiranpolicy.org/536/29301.html
Of course, my three reps, all Dems, are dyed-in-the-wool Zionists, but I’ll call them anyway. I tell anyone who’ll listen in my district about how our supposedly liberal representative is destroying our lives by his Zionism.
He’s Howard Berman and he’s the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Berman just addressed Aipac, wouldn’t you know it? His staff is composed of nitwits genetically combined with assholes, but they’re all Zionists.
Call Berman’s House Foreign Affairs office too, and ask the dickwad who answers the phone why Berman doesn’t just go represent Israel in the Knesset, since he obviously is a traitor to the U.S. with his bending over forwards for Israel. (My apologies to anyone who likes it that way ;-)
You can use the same toll-free number I gave above to call Berman’s House Foreign Affairs office.
One failed to find in Justin Raimundo’s “Obama Capitulates”, which does mention Mr. Paul, one word about impeachment.
One is tiring of those who, rightly analysing a situation, while calling themselves “Constitutionalists”, somehow fail to highlight the obvious constitutional remedy.
A blind spot or something more?
The pattern of the threat seems a domestic version of Olmert’s blackmail–“If the US does not do what we want you to do, we will unilaterally do it–e.g. use nuclear weapons on Iran–and you will have even more problems than if you just go along with what we advise”
The real perversion in this version smacks of Strauss and the Neo-Cons–using the United States’ own nuclear weapons to threaten and coerce the domestic electorate with the possible end of the world.
A rather interesting definition of “terror tactics”, isn’t it?
Getting the least bit exercised is exactly what is sought. The only rational reaction is, “So what else is new?”
Eugene,
I can’t imagine there being a “blind spot” when it comes to remedies and Raimondo on this question. Like so many of us, Raimondo is probably exhausted in his effort of opposing impending war with Iran only to see the one hope the system - and the Constitution - may have offered us go up in smoke at the AIPAC conference on Wednesday. Any “talks” Obama may hold with Iran prior to our striking them are likely to resemble Hitler’s with Hacha in 1939. It will make little difference if its McCain or Obama who is inaugerated, Bush can be assured that war will be pursued at some time whether he is to act after the election or not. So who’s to impeach respecting Iran, Bush, McCain, Obama? I know you’ve favored impeaching Bush for his earlier crimes and I have little doubt that Raimondo would rejoice in the thought, but that has not come about. I believe the matter to be quite beyond constitutional remedies, actually. The one we have has been so abused, so tattered, that it hardly has meaning any longer. We need a new constitution and all the public action necessary to bring it about.
Why a new constitution? If it is a question of ignoring any agreed upon rules, the old one does just fine, doesn’t it?
In fact it has some interesting prescriptions on that score.
And what is the point of trying to agree on a new one with the very people who ignore the old one?
Which at this point also includes Ron Paul, save when he wants to give his naive little lectures on issues close to his pocketbook.
Eugene,
Well, in my view, the Constitution has long been superceded by events. As a practical matter, for some time now we’ve been in a condition tantamount to dictatorship. Our freedom of action when it comes either to foreign or to domestic policy is in the hands of those willing to pay for it and those in a position to receive the payments have erected a system utterly impervious to change by ordinary means. Extra constitutional measures are the only ones promising real hope at this point. The old solutions, the general strike, prolonged mass demonstrations and the like will be the only ones with any prospect of success. Now, of course, we are a very long way from those kinds of solutions. But with oil prices jumping $11 as they did today on war prospects and the largest single increase in unemployment in 26 years sending the stock market into a 400 point spin, we are close to a beginning on experiencing the kind of pain that just might bring about them about. Anyone who reads Paul Roberts has a grasp of the economics ahead of us. The turning point just might arrive when the euro becomes the world’s reserve currency. And who could deny that we’re already in the midst of a financial and credit system meltdown. The critical work will be to direct the discontent to where it belongs when the crisis arises: A Constitution that made possible the kind of reality that had actually emerged. In the ensuing chaos will come the opportunity to expell the usurpers and to try and sentence them publically, this instead of the impeachment you seek. A second constitutional convention could follow producing a document chastened by the earlier experience. Frankly, I see no other way.
A Constitution that made possible the kind of reality that had actually emerged….
More ignoring it.
Paul Craig Roberts is hawkeye when it comes to simple economic patterns that the ill-trained do not wish to compass.
He also transcends ideology, which is key.
Nationalizing oil is one option, which the kneejerk ideologues are already calling “Communist” and “unconstitutional”.
It is neither, and done right it is far superior to Nixon’s price controls, which did not work.
Strictly in regard to the Constitution there is nothing unconstitutional about nationalization as long as there is just compensation. Indeed the Republican Party in freeing the slaves in the border states after the war paid compensation, as it did not do to the slaves in the Confederacy. It was virtually a form of “Nationalization”.
Nationalization has also occurred in other contexts, as during World War Two.
There are many benefits to be had from nationalization of oil. The first and most important would be to separate domestic oil from the currency collapse, thus allowing the possibility of economic recovery.
Second, drilling off shore and in Alaska by a public entity for the public benefit would be possible.
Private companies, whatever they say, will sell any new resources at world market price, and the American economy be damned. Though the United States imports oil (Venezuela is still selling oil to the US at below market price), the oil companies often export when it suits their purposes.
The main concern about nationalizing oil is that it be done constitutionally (not like Truman’s illegal order nationalizing steel) and that it be kept out of the hands of the politicians.
At any rate, I bring this forward merely as an example of the limberness of the old Constitution.
I see no reason for a new one rather than paying attention to the one that is there, which Paul is certainly not doing in regard to impeachment.
Re: nationalizing oil, why not learn to conserve? There’s no reason the average American can’t walk 20 minutes to a store.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
We don’t need a new consitution, we need to use the one we have. Can you imagine what the new one would be like if it were written by our current crop of republicrats?
Hear, hear.
Again the half-brains agree.
It has become clear that the Constitution was fatally flawed from the beginning in that it is too difficult to remove the President. As a result, over the last 200+ years, the Presidency has consistently aggrandized itself.
Fortunately, there is a remedy should Congress decide to implement it. There needs to be a Constitutional Amendment making it easier to remove a President. I’m not quite sure myself what form this should take or how easy removal should be made. Perhaps a simple majority to convict and remove in the Senate after impeachment by the House. Perhaps the states should have some input in the decision to remove a President, or the people through petition should force a recall vote.
I don’t know what the final formula should be, but it’s clear the bar is too high in the current formula. One reason to hope this is possible is that the President can not veto a Constitutional Amendment.
Impeachment, according to the Constitution, is fairly easy, and deliberately so.
The flaw is not structural.
Ron Paul illustrates the real problem aptly. Though claiming to be a Constitutionalist, and having rightly characterized Clinton as impeachable according to the Constitution, he declines to use the same principles in regard to Bush and Cheney.
Initially he opposed Kucinich’s motion to impeach Cheney, for example, and then tepidly supported sending it to Judiciary, while claiming, in complete contradiction of his earlier arguments in regard to Clinton, that “proper procedure” must be followed.
There is no proper procedure beyond what the Constitution says on the topic, and anything, as Paul argued in relation to Clinton, a majority of the House considers impeachable is impeachable.
Too, some of what are now structural flaws are not in the original program, as in regard to the Vice President and the Senate, just for two examples.
Kurt Goedel, according to Einstein and others, in studying to acquire US citizenship, supposedly found a serious structural flaw in the US Constitution. Einstein and others, however, who thought the that Goedel was being too logical, discouraged him from bringing it up during his citizenship examination, and no one, to my knowledge, now knows what Goedel thought it was.
For students of the Roman Constitution, with which many of the leading framers were familiar and on which much of the US Constitution is patterned, there is an obvious but merely potential flaw that for some reason the framers did not see.
This is a bit curious, for the Romans themselves saw it in their Constitution and remedied it fairly early.
I shall not mention what it is here, though some students of the Roman and American Constitututions, may easily guess what it is.
Yeah, it would be something like the “Lisbon treaty” AKA the European constitution.
Constitution is just high level guidelines and goals that people of the land agreed to adhere to.
People that reside in the US do not adhere to these guidelines and they do not share these goals.
If anything - the rough outline of REAL Constitution for the population of the US should start like this:
“War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”
I’m not aware of ANY county in the World where these guidelines are followed closer.
Also - “Animals and prols are free” - that’s exactly about and average immigrant in the 2nd generation person (and their dogs I guess, although, latter have somewhat less freedom).
What happens on ‘Bomb-day +1′ etc.
Does it matter? Another cryptotype in the threat, which is presented as a rational and inevitable policy, is, “We__________ (insert Neo-Cons, Israelis, et al. as you choose) control the President of the United States.”
Oh.
Again–what else is new?
At this point one at last begins to understand the crowds under someone high on a building ledge yelling, “Jump! Jump!”.
Part of it coming to the conclusion that the potential suicide is too boring and predictable to live.
And if the man happens to be carrying a nuclear weapon as he threatens to jump–well, also too boring and predictable to live with.
After all, if he is prevented from committing suicide and gets whatever he wants, he’ll just be back up there again next week.
I have to say that I am impressed by the genuine gravitas of John McCain’s understanding of the Iranian threat: “Look, if you don’t want an American attack, then you have to join us in being very serious with the Iranians and making clear to them we will attack if they don’t stop.”
This is incredibly powerful wisdom! It’s like walking into your neighbor’s home with a loaded shotgun, pointing it at him, and telling him that if he doesn’t stop reaching for his pistol, you will be forced to take action! That’s what I want for a Commander-in-Chief!
A: Freeze!
B: Who are you and what are you doing in my house?
A: It’s called a preemptive strike.
B: A preemptive strike?
A: Yes–a preemptive strike.
B: Why are you pointing that shotgun at me in my own house? Are you a robber?
A: No. I am here to stop you playing with your pistol.
B: My pistol [looks around the room]. What pistol?
A: Yes, your pistol. We know you have pistol and intend to come over to my house and kill me.
B: I have no pistol.
A: We know you have pistol. And if you don’t have a pistol you have plans to build a pistol. And we know that you intend to use the pistol to come over to my house and kill me. Fork it over!
B: Fork what over? There is no pistol.
A: Then fork over the plans. Get down on your knees–confess that you want to kill me with the pistol that you are planning to build! Confess! You hate me and you plan to come over my house and kill me!
[doorbell rings}
A: Who's that?
B: [smiling] How should I know? Do you want me to answer it?
A: Yes, come with me to the door.
[get to door, which is opened and there stands....]
WHO?
“….and there stands….” Superman who wraps the shotgun around the intruder’s neck and then heaves him into orbit around the moon to never again threaten the neighborhood.
Congress and the courts are clearly dysfunctional. For whatever reasons, they refuse to play their constitutionally assigned roles. I’m afraid that if Superman doesn’t save us, then our last hope is a military coup organized by enlightened generals, if such creatures even exist. Let’s face it. Desperate times call for muscular methods.
The most likely “muscular methods”: sitting around, complaining, drinking beer, shooting the beer bottles.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
What Pipes said about Bush is what I’ve been thinking for about the last nine months. The only reason Bush hasn’t already launched air strikes on Iran is that he doesn’t want to doom the Republican presidential candiate in November. I’ve always thought that if it looked like the nominee had no chance Bush would go ahead and attack otherwise he would postpone the attack until just after the election.
Tim R. is such a provacative little shit isn’t he? Hopefully, God will allow another Gen. Titus to scatter the racially narcissistic bastards to the four winds again..carrying their anti-Christian, anti-Gentile Talmuds under their arms..
Actually, it’s a curiosity that he even attends the antiwar.com site. Maybe a neocon plant?
Tim R is wasting your time — rather than arguing with him, you should be calling Congres, or talking some sense to your neighbors/ friends/ relatives/ co-workers, about the Israel lobby and how it led to our attack on Iraq and will lead to an attack on Iran.
And then, after an attack on Iran, gas prices will be upwards of $12-15 a gallon, which we can all afford, right? ;-)
Tim R. is probably a Megaphone operative. Megaphone, Israel’s propaganda (hasbara) outlet, was started by Israel’s Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, who is now inline to become Israel’s Prime Minister after Olmert, in order to lead us all into Armegeddeon.
Megaphone’s specific purpose is to enlist Israel’s supporters around the world, using email alerts,in order to have a rapid action response to any criticism of Israel.
Thus, the non-pro-Israel world is led to believe that the vast majority of the planet supports Israel, and that all Muslims are evil fiends, despite all evidence to the contrary.
And now, Tzipi, founder of Israel propaganda outfit Megaphone, has a real shot at becoming Israel’s PM, while she destroy the U.S. by tricking us into attacking Iran and launching World War III.
The Israel lobby will only meet its match when an equally passionate foce rises up to oppose it.
The fact is, most Americans (including many Jews) oppose the issue-by-issue positions of the Israel lobby, but they are not as passionate and or committed enough in sufficient numbers. What we need is an “anti-Israel Lobby lobby” that cares as much and works as hard and includes as many people as the Israel lobby.
The Israel lobby is more than a lobby; it’s a movement, a culture. We need a corresponding counter-movement and counter-culture. And that’s tricky, because it will certainly be branded anti-Semitic, and it will certainly attract some anti-Semites as well (but maybe not that many: anti-Semites are very often staunchly pro-Israel - a very strange paradox indeed).
We need Vespasion and Titus to take care of the problem. I agree with that.
Horrible message from Daniel Pipes! Thanks for telling us, Neither my dad, any of his brothers, or my any of my four grandparents made it to the age of sixty, but I was hoping I would make it to eighty. Doesn’t look likely.
Doesn’t the USA have enough on its plate already, two losing, if not lost, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now it is going to take on a third country. NUTS.
Pipes? Did Pipes get that comment cleared with Michelle Malkin? Aren’t Pipes and Malkin kind of, well you know, jiggy-wid-it?