Tuesday afternoon I spoke with former CIA analyst and founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, Ray McGovern, about his confrontation last Thursday with “Defense” Secretary Donald Rumsfeld about his lying us into war with Iraq, Lt. Gen. Hayden’s appointment to run the CIA, the fight between the CIA and Pentagon over covert operations, the likelihood of war with Iran and why government employees ought to rat on their bosses.
Ray McGovern Interview
Scott Horton is editorial director of Antiwar.com, director of the Libertarian Institute and host of the Scott Horton Show from ScottHorton.org. He’s the author of the 2017 book, Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan, the 2021 book Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism and the 2024 book Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine, and editor of The Great Ron Paul: The Scott Horton Show Interviews 2004–2019 and Hotter Than the Sun: Time to Abolish Nuclear Weapons. He’s conducted more than 6,000 interviews since 2003. Scott lives in Austin, Texas with his wife, investigative reporter Larisa Alexandrovna Horton. He is a fan of, but no relation to the lawyer from Harper’s.
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