Glenn Greenwald on the War in Ukraine and the War at Home (video)
I discussed the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the debate over what role the U.S. Government should play, if any, in its outcome.
9 thoughts on “Glenn Greenwald on the War in Ukraine and the War at Home (video)”
That was reasonable.
Glenn Greenwald made an excellent speech.When he talked about the 1st Gulf War, he should have mentioned that although George H.W. Bush did not remove Saddam Hussein from power, the US and UK bombed Iraq from the NO-Fly-Zones after the Gulf War ended and before the Iraq War started and the UN sanctions against Iraq led to starvation of the people because the UN’s Oil For Food Program restricted the amount of food Iraq could buy and that Bush devastated much of Panama to find Noriega and installed another president there.
I haven’t yet bothered to listen to it mostly because it’s taken Greenwald and Jimmy Dore and the others obsessed with mainstream media personalities matters to take notice of the escalating crisis for four months. They’re seriously late to the game, like most Americans.
I have started listening to it, and have paused it close to the 20 minute mark to add a weightier criticism. Greenwald is setting up a strawman, speaking as though NATO governments were indulging in crass anti-Putin propaganda and silencing everyone daring to say anything good about Putin.
Greenwald’s propaganda here is more crass than anything I have read about on Reuters, ABC News, 444-hu [yes, I am bilingual], or the Washington Post, where criticism of Putin is muted compared to the rabid anti-Trump hysteria that runs rampant in the WaPo comments sections.
For most of what went before this spiel, I was bored because Greenwald was feeding us pop psychology about how our primitive tribal feelings were causing us to lose our perspective on what is going on. But this new spiel is much worse.
Will Greenwald ever get around to something I’m commenting on in “The Land Where History Died”, by David Stockman, the issue of why Putin was not satisfied with securing the independence of the two eastern regions, but unilaterally began a violent war which a supposedly anti-war forum should be deeply concerned over.
Greenwald should make public a transcript of his talk, which I could read in one-tenth of the hour and 10 minutes it takes to hear the whole thing.
Will he? I doubt it. He would look as one-sided as Stockman is.
Glenn is always clear, reasonable and interesting. Odd I should hear this right now when I’ve spent the last week fending off my whole family defending Putin by understanding his actions. For over thirty years he’s tried to befriend America to no avail. Everything he says, every hand he extends is slapped down without a second of consideration. The Monroe Doctrine is now on steroids and includes the Wolfowitz/Bush Doctrine which means not only does the U.S. control the southern hemisphere, but the entire world, by absolute right. I stumped for Tulsi Gabbard, but I’ve noticed if anyone running for president shows any sign of reason that is appealing to voters, s/he is immediately dubbed a Russian asset. Happened to Jill Stein, too; finally Dennis Kuchinic left Congress. There’s almost no point in running if you are a good person; you will be dragged through the mud because no good president will ever be allowed to be elected. One must be “patriotic,” i.e., pro-wars, corporations, banks and not hesitate to fork over billions to the MIC when we need universal healthcare, education, housing…you know, like Cuba. Every war we’ve been in since WWII, we’ve started which is against international law. The New York Times editorial opinion yesterday had the gaul to say this invasion is the first of this century. Are they insane? Do they not recall all the bloodshed they’ve backed and the coups. I heard Hillary today blame Trump. No one brings up her involvement in the Ukraine coup, taking out an elected president. Then she, et. al., established a Nazi military; yes, see the swastika on the helmets and the Nazi insignia on the uniforms. Take a look at the Azov Battalion, Svoboda, the Right Sector and those who follow the fascist ideas of Stefan Bandera. The last time the U.S. practiced any diplomacy was when JFK kept nuclear bomb out of Cuba. People think it’s crazy for Putin to want those kept out of Ukraine. As Glenn says, to go against the grain is socially devestating for anyone who tries it. [Not for me, however, I’ve been fighting against the crowd since I was three years old.] Thank you, Glenn!
Your ideology is clearly showing. It is not anti-war, otherwise you would mention the Korean War and the First Gulf War, both of which had as much backing as Ukraine is getting now. Like the response to Putin’s massive escalation of the conflict, these were responses to naked aggression. But you are silent about that escalation
You allege, “The last time the U.S. practiced any diplomacy was when JFK kept nuclear bomb out of Cuba. “ Have you forgotten the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel that President Carter helped to broker in Camp David? Or are you so anti-Zionist that you want Egypt to abrogate the treaty?
Of course you make a good point about Russia’s fears. But have you weighed the feas of the Baltic States? They experienced genocide at the hands of the USSR. Same in Central Europe. More people were killed in Hungary after WWII than during the war, by your glorious Russians. Their fears should be balanced with Russian paranoia, too!
Thank you for your comment, Christopher. Putin has inherited a siege mentality from Soviet leaders, satirized by George Orwell in Animal Farm with the oft-repeated warning, “Jones will come back!”
It was also satirized in a political cartoon around 1948, when one Soviet-occupied country after another was falling to Stalinist regimes and Greece was locked in a war against Communist guerillas. The cartoon showed a bear at a banquet table, grabbing strings of sausages and other food items labeled with names of satellite nations, and explaining “I need all this food because I am so insecure…”
Finally I have heard a balanced view of what is happening.
Western main stream media is really very good at deception.
Question that remains unanswered is why US is interested in Ukraine. I think its to topple Putin’s government and install their brand of democracy there that does not work
That was reasonable.
Glenn Greenwald made an excellent speech.When he talked about the 1st Gulf War, he should have mentioned that although George H.W. Bush did not remove Saddam Hussein from power, the US and UK bombed Iraq from the NO-Fly-Zones after the Gulf War ended and before the Iraq War started and the UN sanctions against Iraq led to starvation of the people because the UN’s Oil For Food Program restricted the amount of food Iraq could buy and that Bush devastated much of Panama to find Noriega and installed another president there.
I haven’t yet bothered to listen to it mostly because it’s taken Greenwald and Jimmy Dore and the others obsessed with mainstream media personalities matters to take notice of the escalating crisis for four months. They’re seriously late to the game, like most Americans.
I have started listening to it, and have paused it close to the 20 minute mark to add a weightier criticism. Greenwald is setting up a strawman, speaking as though NATO governments were indulging in crass anti-Putin propaganda and silencing everyone daring to say anything good about Putin.
Greenwald’s propaganda here is more crass than anything I have read about on Reuters, ABC News, 444-hu [yes, I am bilingual], or the Washington Post, where criticism of Putin is muted compared to the rabid anti-Trump hysteria that runs rampant in the WaPo comments sections.
For most of what went before this spiel, I was bored because Greenwald was feeding us pop psychology about how our primitive tribal feelings were causing us to lose our perspective on what is going on. But this new spiel is much worse.
Will Greenwald ever get around to something I’m commenting on in “The Land Where History Died”, by David Stockman, the issue of why Putin was not satisfied with securing the independence of the two eastern regions, but unilaterally began a violent war which a supposedly anti-war forum should be deeply concerned over.
Greenwald should make public a transcript of his talk, which I could read in one-tenth of the hour and 10 minutes it takes to hear the whole thing.
Will he? I doubt it. He would look as one-sided as Stockman is.
Glenn is always clear, reasonable and interesting. Odd I should hear this right now when I’ve spent the last week fending off my whole family defending Putin by understanding his actions. For over thirty years he’s tried to befriend America to no avail. Everything he says, every hand he extends is slapped down without a second of consideration. The Monroe Doctrine is now on steroids and includes the Wolfowitz/Bush Doctrine which means not only does the U.S. control the southern hemisphere, but the entire world, by absolute right. I stumped for Tulsi Gabbard, but I’ve noticed if anyone running for president shows any sign of reason that is appealing to voters, s/he is immediately dubbed a Russian asset. Happened to Jill Stein, too; finally Dennis Kuchinic left Congress. There’s almost no point in running if you are a good person; you will be dragged through the mud because no good president will ever be allowed to be elected. One must be “patriotic,” i.e., pro-wars, corporations, banks and not hesitate to fork over billions to the MIC when we need universal healthcare, education, housing…you know, like Cuba. Every war we’ve been in since WWII, we’ve started which is against international law. The New York Times editorial opinion yesterday had the gaul to say this invasion is the first of this century. Are they insane? Do they not recall all the bloodshed they’ve backed and the coups. I heard Hillary today blame Trump. No one brings up her involvement in the Ukraine coup, taking out an elected president. Then she, et. al., established a Nazi military; yes, see the swastika on the helmets and the Nazi insignia on the uniforms. Take a look at the Azov Battalion, Svoboda, the Right Sector and those who follow the fascist ideas of Stefan Bandera. The last time the U.S. practiced any diplomacy was when JFK kept nuclear bomb out of Cuba. People think it’s crazy for Putin to want those kept out of Ukraine. As Glenn says, to go against the grain is socially devestating for anyone who tries it. [Not for me, however, I’ve been fighting against the crowd since I was three years old.] Thank you, Glenn!
Your ideology is clearly showing. It is not anti-war, otherwise you would mention the Korean War and the First Gulf War, both of which had as much backing as Ukraine is getting now. Like the response to Putin’s massive escalation of the conflict, these were responses to naked aggression. But you are silent about that escalation
You allege, “The last time the U.S. practiced any diplomacy was when JFK kept nuclear bomb out of Cuba. “ Have you forgotten the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel that President Carter helped to broker in Camp David? Or are you so anti-Zionist that you want Egypt to abrogate the treaty?
Of course you make a good point about Russia’s fears. But have you weighed the feas of the Baltic States? They experienced genocide at the hands of the USSR. Same in Central Europe. More people were killed in Hungary after WWII than during the war, by your glorious Russians. Their fears should be balanced with Russian paranoia, too!
Thank you for your comment, Christopher. Putin has inherited a siege mentality from Soviet leaders, satirized by George Orwell in Animal Farm with the oft-repeated warning, “Jones will come back!”
It was also satirized in a political cartoon around 1948, when one Soviet-occupied country after another was falling to Stalinist regimes and Greece was locked in a war against Communist guerillas. The cartoon showed a bear at a banquet table, grabbing strings of sausages and other food items labeled with names of satellite nations, and explaining “I need all this food because I am so insecure…”
Finally I have heard a balanced view of what is happening.
Western main stream media is really very good at deception.
Question that remains unanswered is why US is interested in Ukraine. I think its to topple Putin’s government and install their brand of democracy there that does not work