‘Obama’s War in Iraq May Be Longer Than Bush’s War in Iraq’

So says Thomas Ricks, author of Fiasco and The Gamble: General David Petraeus and the American Military Adventure in Iraq, 2006-2008, on last night’s Daily Show.

“General Odierno says he would like to see 35,000 troops there (Iraq) in 2015. What that means is that we may be just halfway through this thing.”

A very sobering interview, especially for one on Jon Stewart’s show.

28 thoughts on “‘Obama’s War in Iraq May Be Longer Than Bush’s War in Iraq’”

  1. If AIPAC wants American troops to stay in Iraq, then Obama will do that, and Congress will continue to fund that. This is no longer a union of states, and some state legislatures are debating what to do about that, how to protect their citizens from our zionist occupied federal government.

    1. What differance did you expect from UNCLE AIPAC OBAMA, when we didn’t hear a PEEP from him with Israeil’s onslaught on Gaza showed his true character. Than appointing the same bunch of war mongers from the past put the icing on his cake.At least ANTI WAR still has the the best anti war contributers that can be found in the America MEDIA and gives us hope there is still sane people lurking among us in this WORLD.

  2. Watch the video at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032

    They lied to get into Iraq and if they were so eager so as to use lies as an excuse to invade do you really think that they plan to leave anytime soon? The O administration is full of old Clintonites and other political hacks who have cycled through previous admins and lurked in the DC swamp. Nothing will change… The only thing that could stop the warnuts is the economy… If things get so bad back home then they will be unable to ignore domestic issues as Bush did during his eight years. Americans are naive and fell for Obama’s charm. He has charmed them right into another snakepit.

  3. War is peace. Obama is the anti-war candidate. We’ve truly entered ‘1984 + Idiocracy’ territory. Don’t forget: Obama will probably add Iran and Pakistan to the war fronts.

  4. It’ll all end with the implosion of the dollar, coming soon to an economy near you. True, we’ll just be exchanging one nightmare for another, but at least the (direct) fatality rate will be a lot lower, post imperium.

    1. A failing economy could bring on hunger, more homeless people,more sickness and riots, so the pfuture won’t look good for anybody. At least no future hot or cold wars would make a lot more sense.

      1. Obvious,
        I agree that “Our failing economy could bring on hunger, more homeless people, more sickness and riots”. But, after a short period of chaos and an every-man-for-himself atmosphere, it will more likely result in massive collectivization (socialism). In any case, libertarian economics is about to become as popular as syphilis. If anyone is hoping to sell their Milton Freidman and Ayn Rand libraries on E-BAY, I wouldn’t wait too long. (collector plates of Ronald Reagen won’t be bringing much, either)

  5. Obama’s war in Iraq could only be longer than Bush’s if he serves two terms which isn’t very likely considering that the economy almost certainly will still be in the toilet in 2012.

    1. Here is how it happens:

      1) when they came for cannabis, cocaine and opium users – I did not care, since I’m not a user
      2) when they wiped out Dresden – …
      3) when they nuked Japan – ….
      4) when they were killing people in Vietnam – …
      5) when they declared “War on drugs” – …
      6) when they bombed Yugoslavia – ….
      7) WHEN THEY DEMOLISHED THE WTC – is was too late

      at that point I decided that the US project did not work out… and decided that I don’t want to participate.

      Now – one trivial idea for an average American – “Don’t you understand, that if certain Govt. gets the taste of blood, then it does not really care, whose blood it is. And, you know, domestic blood is easier to obtain…”

  6. Don’t give a Nickle to these a-holes, they censor your comments. I have a seaky suspicion that they are part of the government of which they write and complain about…

    1. As for censorship here at antiwar.com, I do have my suspicions about the letters page editor, Sam Koritz. If you look at the fiery criticism of Israel that appears in Raimondo’s columns and those of several other frequent contributors here, and then look at what gatekeeper Koritz allows on the letters page, you see over time that Koritz filters out those letter writers who match the (richly deserved) hostility toward the Holy State evinced by antiwar.com’s best writers. Koritz nudges the letters page discussions decidedly in the direction of a softer line toward Israel than is representative of antiwar.com as a whole. An exception is when the letter is a response by one of antiwar.com’s own writers, such as Ray McGovern, to some letter by a critic. I suppose Koritz wouldn’t dare muzzle antiwar.com’s own writers: this might call the attention of the apparently very busy Mr. Raimondo to the fact that Koritz is undermining antiwar.com’s effectiveness as a place where people can read and write fearlessly about what Israel is doing to America.

      1. I have only been censored once on this site. Once it too often, but that is much less than most other sites. I made the mistake of quoting some of the most bigoted sections of the Tulmud. Many times I have had my comments take a while to post. But this one was NEVER put on. I just about stopped posting for good but decided that as I can speak my mind and get my points across 99% of the time it’s better than nothing.

        Peace!

        1. I estimate about 20% of my posts are censored. They always have been the ones critical of the Jewish lobby in America, especially comments about AIPAC. I never used profanity and thought my posts were backed by facts. A few times I have considered not posting anymore too.

  7. Watching this video just about made me sick. What a couple of total scumbags.

    RESPECT = Killing me gently with this bomb.

    Is it just me or has John Stewart lost his freaking mind? So it’s supposed to be funny when he points out how incompetent the military is and how many US Joes have died as the result? But you let it slide whenever someone comes up with a new plan to win, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I guess it’s fine when a Obama continues to kill people. What is it, he’s a nice guy and will be kind and gentle while he does it? Obviously the Democrats love war as much as the Repuplicans as long as they do it with good intent.

    Republicrat sheeple, divided we stand united we fail! Please don’t tell anyone we are all the same, that might just destroy the whole one party system. I hate you, you hate me, except we always seem to agree.

    Ps. I know I’m not supposed to let the cat out of the bag, some of the sheeple might realize that whoever they vote for things come out the same.

    Peace!

  8. The columnists tell us that we’ve won in Iraq and Afghanistan but at the same time we need to keep troops in both places because the house of cards in both places can collapse at any time. The columnists and our pro-war politicians are all “mental”.

  9. It’s off subject but I think everyone should get it, well mabey not Tim R.

    A man is out walking in New York when he sees a girl being savaged by a fierce dog. He fights off the dog by beating it about the head with a stick and saves the girl’s life.
    The girl’s mother rushes over to him: “Thank you, thank you, you are a hero, tomorrow all the newspapers will have headlines about Brave New Yorker Saves the Life of Young Girl”
    “But I’m not a New Yorker,” the man says.
    “Oh, then it will say in all the newspapers Brave American Saves Life of Young Girl,” says the mother.
    “But I’m not an American,” the man says.
    “What are you then?” asks the mother.
    “I’m an Iranian,” the man says.
    The next day he sees the newspaper headlines:

    Islamic Extremist Kills American Dog.

    Peace!

  10. I, too, am miffed at some things Antiwar has not reported, or under-reported, regarding the Jewish lobby.

    A balanced, well-documented, factual letter of mine was turned down 3 years ago.

    The letter pointed out that several – not all – groups in the Jewish lobby, such as the Anti-Defamation League, American Jewish Committee, and JINSA have not only been denying the Armenian genocide but have also long worked hand in hand with Turkey to stop Congress from passing an Armenian genocide resolution. This is, of course, major holocaust hypocrisy and chutzpah by those Jewish groups.

    In any case, the issue made, and continues to make, international news thanks to Armenian and human rights activists, and principled Jews.

    See http://www.NoPlaceForDenial.com. Click on “News Archive” and “Timeline” to see what Antiwar has been missing. The Armenian genocide has also become a major issue in the current war of words between Turkey and Israel over Gaza.

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