Peña/Bandow on Closing U.S. Military Bases

Charles Peña and Doug Bandow debate Lawrence Korb and Frank Gaffney on closing down the U.S. empire of bases.

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Pt. 3

(Somebody get Gaffney a squeaky red nose and rainbow-afro wig please, huh?)

Update: Dr. Gordon Prather – a real nuclear expert – uses facts to destroy Gaffney’s ridiculous EMP scaremongering here.

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12 thoughts on “Peña/Bandow on Closing U.S. Military Bases”

  1. "We did not choose this war," Obama reminded the troops, recalling the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and warning that al-Qaida was still using the region to plan terrorist strikes against the U.S. and its allies. "We are going to disrupt and dismantle, defeat and destroy al-Qaida and its extremist allies."

    1. No the United States didn't choose this war. It only "chose" to support Israeli oppression of an Arabic people, to station American troops in muslim lands and to enforce sanctions against Iraq that killed untold numbers of innocent people.

    1. He's well enough to ski down mountains at 74 years old, so I would say he's on the road to recovery. Unfortunately it may still be a while before he starts writing again…

  2. "Project our power…work our will…blah, blah,blah…."

    How can anyone stand listening to these maniacal, power hungry, paranoid, blood thirsty neoturds for more than 5 minutes?

  3. I'm surprised there wasn't laughter at Gaffney's opening remarks about them "hating us for who we are, not what we do to them" , which essentially translates into "they don't mind all the bombings/invasions/occupations/puppet rulers brutally ruling over them, … no, they hate us for how brilliant and free we are".

    1. I'm sure that such derisive laughter was absent because the audience consisted almost entirely of brainless, bloodthirsty neocon stooges who lapped up everything Korb and Gaffney said like it was mother's milk rather than the poisonous drivel that it actually was.

      1. yeh, i saw some of them nodding like sheep dogs when Gaffney was spewing forth his garbage.

        Good propaganda is the sort which is aimed at lazy unthinking people, to your average low grade moron a lot of what Gaffney said sounds good IE "we must fight evil" "they hate us for how brilliant we are" and all that BS, the masses swallow it all up because it absolves them of responsibility. This is why people baulk when Ron Paul lays out the truth, people don't want the truth, they want sugar coated garbage that makes them feel good .

  4. This bloodthirsty outpouring from Korb and Gaffney has nothing to do with the future of America – it comes from their hearts which belong to Israel. Racist, land-stealing Israel. And to achieve this racist land theft calls for deception, cruelty and murder all cloaked by some sort of false, brassy patriotism.The “poisonous drivel” (mentioned above) liberally flows from the mother well of toxins that Zionism has become.

  5. Just as Hitlers NAZI henchmen were psycho-socialpaths, so is Gaffney, Wolfowitz, all of the "bloodthirsty neocon stooges" of MINDLESSNESS, those whom are unable to discern thought from facts. MINDLESSNESS for the "neocon stooges" takes on a new dimension, they take the thoughts of others and construe them into their own facts.This is MINDLESSNESS to the 10th power. This MINDLESSNESS is fostered by the pretend christian false doctrine of; "I'm not responsible, god told me to do it anbd/or Satan made me do it[malconduct]but I'm not responsible. This "I'm not responsible" doctrine is institutionized by business, government and churches which gives it legitimacy.

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