Anatol Leven and John Hulsman

Imperial Overstretch


Anatol Lieven and John Hulsman discuss their new book Ethical Realism: A Vision for America’s Role in the World, the damage done by the hubris of those in control of the U.S. government, the bipartisan consensus around the U.S.’s aggressive foreign policy, the insane policy in the Middle East, belligerence toward Russia and U.S. policy makers’ inability to imagine if the shoe were on the other foot.

MP3 here. (15:18)

Anatol Lieven, a former senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, previously covered Central Europe for The Financial Times; Pakistan, Afghanistan, the former Soviet Union, and Russia for The Times (London), and India as a freelance journalist. He was also an editor at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, where he also worked for the Eastern Services of the BBC.

John Hulsman examines European security and NATO affairs, the European Union, U.S.-European trade and economic relations, the war on terror, Iraq, Iran and the Middle-East peace process for the Heritage Foundation. Hulsman is a frequent commentator on all aspects of transatlantic relations, global geopolitics, and international cooperation in fighting terrorism. He makes regular appearances with major media outlets such as ABC, CBS, Fox News, CNN, CNNfn, MSNBC, CNBC, PBS and the BBC.

2 thoughts on “Anatol Leven and John Hulsman”

  1. Truly remarkable; An fantastic interview yet again by Goyette!

    Both Lieven and Hulsman illustrate very nicely the fundmental weakness (ironically its strength as well) in the core beliefs of the American elite : The belief in American Exceptionalism.

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