Scott Horton Week on the Tom Woods Show

Libertarian author and podcaster Tom Woods hosted Antiwar.com editorial director Scott Horton on his show all week this week as a fundraiser to support the writing of Scott’s upcoming book on the terror wars.

Listen to the interviews here:

Day One: Current War on Terrorism Overview

Day Two: Somalia

Day Three: Iraq War II

Day Four: Iraq War III and Syria

Day Five: Yemen

Veterans: Never Should Have Fought the Terror Wars

What a shame. You know, it didn’t have to be this way at all.

Forget that crank Al Gore winning instead. If Bush had only had anyone but Dick Cheney for VP and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz over at Defense, then Colin Powell would have been his man on foreign policy and the whole damn thing would have ended in 2002.

Don’t get me wrong, Powell is still a war criminal for going along and lying us into war, but it wasn’t his policy to expand the war.

No Iraq War II means no war in Libya, Mali, Syria, no Islamic State or Iraq War III. He probably would have wanted to stay in Afghanistan though, and who knows what else, but it definitely didn’t have to be like this: 7,000 dead Americans; a million-plus dead innocent people who had nothing to do with attacking us; as many widows and orphans; Christian, Druze, Yazidi, Turkmen, Kurds, Tuaregs, and millions more Sunni and Shia Arabs displaced and “cleansed” from their homes where their tribes had lived for thousands of years; domestic police state solidified; budget completely busted; capitalism completely corrupted; lost everything anyway; America disgraced permanently.

That must be why the rest of yall drink so much.

Corrected: Gina Haspel Did Not Torture Zubaydah, Apparently

Not only did the new CIA Director personally oversee the torture of Abu Zubaydah, she did so in order to lie you and your mom into supporting the aggressive war against Iraq.

From David Rose’s report “Tortured Reasoning“:

Some of what he did say was leaked by the administration: for example, the claim that bin Laden and his ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi [Zarqawi was not an ally of Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden -editor] were working directly with Saddam Hussein to destabilize the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq. There was much more, says the analyst who worked at the Pentagon: “I first saw the reports soon after Abu Zubaydah’s capture. There was a lot of stuff about the nuts and bolts of al-Qaeda’s supposed relationship with the Iraqi Intelligence Service. The intelligence community was lapping this up, and so was the administration, obviously. Abu Zubaydah was saying Iraq and al-Qaeda had an operational relationship. It was everything the administration hoped it would be.”

Within the administration, Abu Zubaydah’s interrogation was “an important chapter,” the second analyst says: overall, his interrogation “product” was deemed to be more significant than the claims made by Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, another al-Qaeda captive, who in early 2002 was tortured in Egypt at the C.I.A.’s behest. After all, Abu Zubaydah was being interviewed by Americans. Like the former Pentagon official, this official had no idea that Abu Zubaydah had been tortured.

“As soon as I learned that the reports had come from torture, once my anger had subsided I understood the damage it had done,” the Pentagon analyst says. “I was so angry, knowing that the higher-ups in the administration knew he was tortured, and that the information he was giving up was tainted by the torture, and that it became one reason to attack Iraq.”

Says here Zubaydah wasn’t moved to the black site in Poland until late 2002. Not that I know she wasn’t there too, but “soon after Zubaydah’s capture” means on Haspel’s watch in Thailand it seems fair to conclude.

By the way, Zubaydah was not even a member of al Qaeda at all, much less their “Number 3 Lieutenant.”

Update: Pro Publica has completely retracted their story claiming that Gina Haspel was in charge of the torture dungeon in Thailand at the time Abu Zubaydah was held there.

He was still tortured into lying us into war with Iraq, but not by her, apparently.