NYT Still Joking Around About Dead Americans in Afghanistan

Do they have editors at this paper anymore, or it’s all just pre-packaged in Langley?

In an article about three marines who should have never been in Afghanistan in the first place getting killed there in a suicide truck bombing last year, they 1 try to push their Russian bounties hoax some more, while 2 admitting that they’ve got no case to make even though this is their 9th or 10th article in a series on this obvious lie:

“American intelligence agencies are investigating whether that car bomb was detonated at the behest of a Russian military agency paying bounties to Afghan militia groups for killing American troops. Such a possibility, if true, would be a staggering repudiation of Mr. Trump’s yearslong embrace of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Thus far, there is no conclusive evidence linking the deaths to any kind of Russian bounty.”

Yeah, yeah. “If true”; the story of the last four years of Russiagate lies in two words.

They then helpfully remind us:

The investigation into the deaths of the three Marines continues. Although Mr. Trump has dismissed the suspected Russian payments as “fake news,” Congress has begun hearings into the matter. Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that while the government so far lacks proof that any Russian bounties caused specific military casualties, “we are still looking.”

As that famous liar Donald Rumsfeld said about Iraq’s unconventional weapons, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” Good enough for the newspaper of record, of course.

Cross-posted at the Institute.

Shame On You, Charlie Savage

Ashamed man

We all know you know better than to write such garbage as this.

Someone says that “intelligence” says that the Russians are paying to have Americans killed in Afghanistan, huh? And you put your name on that? I mean sure, if you were David Sanger, but you’re Charlie Savage and that means that you have really done a terrible, terrible thing here.

And in paragraphs 5 and 6 you admit that you don’t know that it’s true at all.

“An operation to incentivize the killing of American and other NATO troops would be a significant and provocative escalation of what American and Afghan officials have said is Russian support for the Taliban, and it would be the first time the Russian spy unit was known to have orchestrated attacks on Western troops.

“Any involvement with the Taliban that resulted in the deaths of American troops would also be a huge escalation of Russia’s so-called hybrid war against the United States, a strategy of destabilizing adversaries through a combination of such tactics as cyberattacks, the spread of fake news and covert and deniable military operations.”

“Would.” If actually true, you mean? C’mon, now.

Jeez, they really gave you nothing huh?

“Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, are believed to have collected some bounty money, the officials said. Twenty Americans were killed in combat in Afghanistan in 2019, but it was not clear which killings were under suspicion.”

How come Thomas Gibbons-Neff’s name isn’t on this article? Would he have tried to verify it or something?

We have all come to expect such dishonesty from the New York Times, and especially people like Eric Schmitt. But Charlie. Oh Charlie. This is a new low for you. Have some self-respect for chrissakes.

Update: The WSJ and Washington Post have posted the same assertions, also with no evidence whatsoever.

Update: Savage’s NYT co-conspirators follow-up with slightly more detail, but still no reason to believe.

Cross-posted over at the Institute.

Many, Many People, Sites Have Been Good On Russiagate

Check out this great list of Russiagate Skeptics by Koen Swinkles at Foreign Policy Follies: 138 people, 30 sites/institutions. And don’t forget Norman Soloman!


  1. Aaron Mate @aaronjmate
  2. Michael Tracey @mtracey
  3. Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
  4. The late Robert Parry @consortiumnews
  5. Scott Horton @scotthortonshow
  6. Stephen Cohen
  7. Richard Sakwa
  8. Gareth Porter @garethporter
  9. Julian Assange @julianassange
  10. Mollie Hemingway @mzhemingway
  11. Max Blumenthal @maxblumenthal
  12. Rand Paul @randpaul
  13. Ron Paul @ronpaul
  14. Kyle Kulinski @kylekulinski
  15. Robert Barnes @barnes_law
  16. Yasha Levine @yashalevine
  17. Daniel McAdams @daniellmcadams
  18. Stephen Kinzer @stephenkinzer
  19. Justin Raimondo @justinraimondo
  20. Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
  21. Peter Hitchens @clarkemicah
  22. Thomas Woods @ThomasEWoods
  23. Patrick Buchanan @patrickbuchanan
  24. Stephen McIntyre @climateaudit
  25. Paul Jay @PaulJay_TRNN
  26. Jeffrey St. Clair @jsccounterpunch
  27. Justin Amash @justinamash
  28. Jimmy Dore @jimmydore
  29. Elizabeth Lea Vos @elizabethleavos
  30. Seymour Hersh @seymourhersh
  31. Noam Chomsky
  32. Matt Taibbi @mtaibbi
  33. John Kiriakou @JohnKiriakou
  34. Lee Camp @LeeCamp
  35. Philip Giraldi @philipgiraldi
  36. Oliver Stone @theoliverstone
  37. Will Porter @wkpancap
  38. Lucy Komisar @LucyKomisar
  39. Alex Krainer @NakedHedgie
  40. Mike Whitney https://russia-insider.com/en/mike_whitney 
  41. Andrew Cockburn @andrewmcockburn
  42. Tom Luongo @tfl1728
  43. Alan R. Macleod @AlanRMacLeod
  44. Joanne Leon @joanneleon
  45. Dan Wright @aroundtheempire
  46. Jim Kavanagh @ThePolemicist_
  47. Gregg Jarrett @GregJarrett
  48. Tim Shorrock @timothys
  49. Bryan MacDonald @27khv
  50. Andrew McCarthy @andrewcmccarthy
  51. Abbie Martin @AbbyMartin
  52. Robbie Martin @fluorescentgrey
  53. Tim Black @realtimblack
  54. Lou Dobbs @LouDobbs
  55. Dana Rohrabacher @DanaRohrabacher
  56. Ray McGovern @raymcgovern
  57. Mary Dejevsky @marydejevsky
  58. ‘Moon of Alabama’ @moonofa
  59. Tucker Carlson @tuckercarlson
  60. Dan Cohen @DanCohen3000
  61. Katrina vandenHeuvel @KatrinaNation
  62. Lee Smith @LeeSmithDC
  63. Craig Murray @craigmurrayorg
  64. Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
  65. Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
  66. Mark Ames @MarkAmesExiled
  67. Margot Cleveland @ProfMJCleveland
  68. Chris Hedges @ChrisLynnHedges
  69. Kim Strassel @KimStrassel
  70. John W. Huber @JohnWHuber
  71. Dan Bongino @dbongino
  72. John Solomon @jsolomonReports
  73. Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
  74. ‘The Last Refuge’ @TheLastRefuge2
  75. Devin Nunes @DevinNunes
  76. Byron York @ByronYork
  77. Sean Davis @seanmdav
  78. Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
  79. Rania Khalek @RaniaKhalek
  80. George Szamuely @GeorgeSzamuely
  81. Ben Norton @BenjaminNorton
  82. Jordan Chariton @jordanchariton
  83. Joe Lauria @unjoe
  84. Leonid Bershidsky @Bershidsky
  85. Neil Clark @NeilClark66
  86. Dennis Bernstein https://consortiumnews.com/tag/dennis-j-bernstein/
  87. Kevin Shipp @kevin_shipp
  88. Paul Craig Roberts http://paulcraigroberts.org 
  89. Tara McCormack @Mccormack_tara
  90. Adam Johnson @adamjohnsonnyc
  91. Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec
  92. Jeff Carlson @themarketswork
  93. Walker Bragman @walkerbragman
  94. Mark McCarthy
  95. Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson
  96. Victor Davis Hanson @VDHanson
  97. The Saker https://thesaker.is/ 
  98. Jason Beale @jabeale
  99. Paul Sperry @paulsperry_
  100. Adam Carter @with_integrity
  101. Mike Cernovich @Cernovich
  102. Sara Carter @SaraCarterDC
  103. Tom Fitton @TomFitton
  104. Katie Halper @kthalps
  105. Luke Rosiak @lukerosiak
  106. Pat Lang https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/russiagate/ …
  107. Kit Klarenberg @KitKlarenberg
  108. Lee Stranahan @stranahan
  109. Eoin Higgins @EoinHiggins_
  110. Brian Becker @BrianBeckerDC
  111. Michael Krieger @libertyblitz
  112. the late William Blum http://williamblum.org 
  113. Jeremy Scahill @jeremyscahill
  114. Peter B. Collins http://peterbcollins.com 
  115. T. A. Frank @tafrank
  116. Shannon @Avery1776
  117. Carroll Quigley @CarrollQuigley1
  118. E. C. Everett @ECEverett1
  119. ‘Based Basterd’ @BasedBasterd
  120. Jenn @JennElizabethJ
  121. Rosie Memos @almostjingo
  122. ‘Ghost of Daniel Parker’ @SeekerOTL
  123. ‘BenKTallmadge’ @BenKTallmadge
  124. Brian Cates @drawandstrike
  125. Cassandra Fairbanks @CassandraRules
  126. An0maly @LegendaryEnergy
  127. Doug Johnson Hatlem @djjohnso
  128. Stef Zamorano @miserablelib
  129. Ron Placone @ronplacone
  130. Margaret Kimberley @freedomrideblog
  131. Glen Ford @glenfordbar
  132. Bruce Dixon @brucedixon
  133. Tracy Beanz @tracybeanz
  134. Teodrose Fikre @TeodroseFikre
  135. Piers Robinson @PiersRobinson1
  136. Pepe Escobar https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377
  137. Jack Matlock https://jackmatlock.com/2018/06/musings-russiagate-hysteria/
  138. John J. Mearsheimer
Media Organizations
  1. Scott Horton Show 
  2. Consortium News 
  3. Around the Empire 
  4. The Jimmy Dore Show The Jimmy Dore Show
  5. Spiked 
  6. Citations Needed 
  7. The Real News 
  8. The Liberty Report 
  9. The Nation @TheNation
  10. Part of the Problem @comicdavesmith
  11. Antiwar.com 
  12. The Federalist @FDRLST
  13. Wikileaks @wikileaks
  14. Naked Capitalism Naked Capitalism
  15. Zero Hedge Zero Hedge 
  16. Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting @FAIRMediaWatch
  17. Humanist Report @humanistreport
  18. LewRockwell.com 
  19. Counterpunch 
  20. Media Roots 
  21. The Grayzone @GrayzoneProject
  22. Crowdsource the Truth @csthetruth
  23. World Socialist Web Site 
  24. Foreign Policy Focus 
  25. Disobedient Media 
  26. CrossTalk @PLCROSSTALK
  27. Black Agenda Report @blkagendareport
  28. Unauthorized Disclosure 
  29. Mint Press News @mintpressnews
  30. 21st Century Wire @21WIRE