Live interview with Dahr Jamail

Today (Saturday), at 4PM central time, Scott Horton will be interviewing Dahr Jamail, who’s near-daily reports from Iraq, as well as hard-news articles make for the most indispensible reading on the occupation. From his Nov. 19 entry;

Later Abu Talat comes to my hotel to see me. He is distraught, crying while he recounts the story. After listening to the tape he recorded inside the mosque during the atrocity, he says…

“I am in a very sad position. I do not see any freedom or any democracy. If this could lead into a freedom, it is a freedom with blood. It is a freedom of emotions of sadness. It is a freedom of killing. You cannot gain democracy through blood or killing. You do not find the freedom that way. People are going to pray to God and they were killed and wounded. There were 1,500 people praying to God and they went on a holiday were people go every Friday for prayers. And they were shot and killed. There were so many women and kids lying on the ground. This is not democracy, neither freedom.”

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Do Not Adjust Your Monitor

Saturday’s spotlight may be a first in Antiwar.com history. It’s called “Raising the Debt Limit: A Disgrace,” and it does not contain any of the following words: Iraq, Iran, Israel, neoconservative, Bush, empire – or even war. It doesn’t need to: it’s about the national debt, and anyone who reads this site regularly should grasp the relevance immediately. For you newbies, a little background:

Debt, the Greatest Threat to Our National Security,” by Rep. Ron Paul

The Defense Budget Is Bigger Than You Think” by Robert Higgs

Saving the World With Your Money” by Rep. Ron Paul

Federal Spending Threatens Our Security,” by Jacob Hornberger

The United States and the Roman Empire,” by Lawrence W. Reed (from 1990 – when the national debt was only $3 trillion!)

Wounded Iraqi POWs shot in Fallujah mosque

Because I judge Phil Carter to regularly be both objective and honest, I was somewhat shocked to read in Slate, his accounting of the Fallujah mosque shooting incident. In order to demonstrate where Phil goes wrong, I’m going to use Helena Cobbam’s examination of the incident. All bolding and italics mine.

The timing of the account seems a little internally inconsistent. Sites’ description of, apparently, the first time the battalion stormed the mosque was that it was on “Saturday”, but later it seems more likely that it was on Friday… Maybe late-night Friday / early-morning Sat?

Anyway, that was when they left five wounded insurgents behind them inside the mosque, with no record that any first-aid had been offered to them. A violation of the Geneva Conventions. (Or, two violations.)

The marines also “displayed” the arms they’d found in the mosque at the time, which meant that the arms were in the Marines’ hands, not those of the insurgents. Almost certainly, the wounded insurgents were disarmed at that time. They were also apparently immobile, since they were simply “left behind in the mosque for other Marines to evacuate for treatment”.

No such evacuation occurred, however. (Did the attacking squad call in to the medics to make such an evacuation? That wd be crucial evidence of their intent.)

On Saturday, two units that “were not involved in Friday’s fighting” returned to the mosque, approaching it from two different sides. Sites was, obviously, traveling with only one of the two units and apparently could not see what the other unit was doing. He said he could hear gunfire from inside. He heard a Marine confirm that he had shot the people inside the mosque:

“Did you shoot them?” the lieutenant asked.

“Roger that, sir,” the second Marine replied.

“Were they armed?” the lieutenant asked.

The second Marine shrugged in reply.

I take it that’s a “No.”

When Sites entered the mosque, he saw the five people he’d seen left there the day before, and four of them “had been shot again, apparently by members of the squad that entered the mosque moments earlier.” He didn’t report seeing any other Iraqis in the mosque (such as might have been armed and shot at the squad that entered.)

In other words, four of the five wounded insurgents who’d been left there the day before, presumably already disarmed, immobile, and “awaiating medical evacuation”, had been summarily shot.

Four massive violations of the GC’s.

And then, Sites saw one Marine shoot one of the wounded men in cold blood. (Which is what we saw on the t.v. clip.)

Another violation of the GC’s. Possibly, the seventh such violation that Sites had talked about in his testimony so far.

Someone–presumably Sites– then told the shooter that his mvictim had been a wounded prisoner, and the Marine told Sites: “I didn’t know, sir. I didn’t know.”

So, huge numbers of violations there need to be investigated, and it seems clear it is not only the one shooter whom Sites had caught on tape whose actions should be investigated.

I want to express a massive thank-you to Kevin Sites for having stuck closely to journalistic and humanitarian ethics in this whole incident. I am sure that, for journalists who are embedded with fighting formations in circumstances that for all of them are very scary, there is a huge temptation to ignore or downplay the “excesses” that the embedded-in units might commit “in the heat of battle”. Sites resisted that temptation.

In addition, he knew enough about the distinctions contained in the Geneva Conventions that he could clearly recognize that the wounded insurgents did indeed qualify as wounded POWs (since they had previously been disarmed by the US forces, and the original capturing unit had asserted the US forces’ responsibility for them by promising a medical evacuation for them), and therefore that shooting them was an act for which the shooter should be reproached. Indeed, shooting them was a clear war crime.

So, Kevin: big thanks to you.

And the rest of us: let’s figure out what we can do to get humanitarian access into Fallujah and the other beleaguered cities absolutely as soon as possible.

Phil, do you see why this is wrong, now?

If prosecutors charge the Marine with murder, they will argue that the Marines took these Iraqi men as prisoners the moment they secured the building. Moving or not, the wounded Iraqi was a prisoner….

The Iraqis were prisoners from the day before. They were taken prisoner and disarmed by another group of Marines and then left, wounded and bleeding.

I’m curious as to how the accounting by Kevin Sites got so garbled, to the point I’m getting numerous emails demonstrating the same error. I know the real story isn’t pleasant, but I don’t believe Phil Carter would write the article he did unless he had been convinced by someone credible that the story was as he related it. Unfortunately, it isn’t.

Son of N-Word

Wow. Now I understand why people use the N-word and the F-word so often – they get results. That one little blogpost got me more e-mails than any “Collateral Damage” I’ve ever toiled over. So much for subtlety and fine distinctions.

Most of the responses were positive, but among the negatives were many liberals wondering why I picked on them. To be fair, I should have written “some really annoying liberals” instead of just “liberals.” One libertarian reader reminded me that “Nazi” and “fascist” are increasingly the epithets of choice for neocons and minicons (e.g., Sean Hannity). True, but I think those guys do it with a joy engendered by the impression that they’re giving liberals a taste of their own medicine.

And some liberals frankly deserve it. Among those who wrote me, several were hellbent on proving my point. To wit:

    NO, all right wingers are Nazi and fascists. The fact is imutable, as in libertarians are little shits that think all welfare is wrong, except the welfare they get, or that government is bad, except when it works for them, and who differ from their Repuglikan counterparts in that they are “stay-at-home” Nazis, rather then “lets-spread our ugly -mean-nasty-souless-thinking all over the world” Nazis.

No, buddy, such libertarians may be hypocrites, but they aren’t Nazis. I’ll say it real slow for you: you may loooove the welfare state and think anyone who opposes it (as I do) is an abomination, but that doesn’t make those people Nazis any more than torturing kittens makes one a cannibal. And if you’re ever inclined to move your eyeballs side to side, you might want to read up on the Nazis of reality as opposed to those of lefty fantasy. Here’s a start from none other than Barbara Ehrenreich:

    Hitler built up a welfare state, too, including support for single women willing to produce fresh cannon fodder for his state of permanent war.

Finally, a reader asks if maybe I misinterpreted Glenn Reynolds’ response to my follow-up post:

    The way I read his statement [“Jesus Christ that’s pathetic, especially from someone who invokes McCarthyism.”] is he’s accusing you of McCarthyism — which, come to think of it, is a pretty lame-ass stereotypical liberal thing to do.

That’s also how I initially interpreted it, until I asked Reynolds what he meant and he sent me a link to this Justin Raimondo column. In it, the only reference to McCarthy or McCarthyism is the following quotation from Glenn Reynolds:

    Going to a march organized by Communists doesn’t make you a Communist, any more than going to a march organized by Nazis makes you a Nazi. But knowingly going to either one makes you icky. And calling it McCarthyism when people point that out, or point out that the Communists really are Communists, makes you either dishonest, or stupid.

In other words, Reynolds referred me to an instance in which he bashed people for invoking the specter of McCarthyism in self-defense. Thus, I understood that he was accusing me of crying “McCarthyism!” (which I wasn’t), not practicing it (whatever the hell that entails). I had to decide whether Reynolds was being “dishonest, or stupid,” and I chose the latter. He has yet to correct me.

Drums of War déjà vu

Here we go again

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell shared information with reporters Wednesday about Iran’s nuclear program that was classified and based on an unvetted, single source who provided information that two U.S. officials said yesterday was highly significant if true but has not yet been verified.
[…]
According to one official with access to the material, a “walk-in” source approached U.S intelligence earlier this month with more than 1,000 pages purported to be Iranian drawings and technical documents, including a nuclear warhead design and modifications to enable Iranian ballistic missiles to deliver an atomic strike. The official agreed to discuss the information on the condition of anonymity and only because Powell had alluded to it publicly.

The London Times quotes Powell:

“You do not have a weapon until you put it in something that can deliver a weapon,” Mr Powell said.

Iraqidronesofdeath

Like the Iraqi Drones of Death, for example.